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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    What would they do if one of their male members got an illness?
    Since when is getting pregnant an illness?
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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    LOL. You don't plan on winning any war you find yourself in.
    Well according to your theory, all I'd have to do is take my shirt off.

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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    You're arguing with someone who is now just arguing to argue. He is taking the position that a tank platoon goes into combat in total isolation for months at a time, completely cut off from supplies - for which month after month a pregnant soldier would be stuck there. Actually, tanks run out of fuel very quickly.

    In fact, the military requires soldiers allow all sorts of drugs be injected into them - like it or not. Nothing would prevent women in combat to be tested for pregnancy and injected with a month's long contraceptive slow release capsule, which many women now use anyway.
    Of course, if she can. Not everyone can take all birth control methods though. I'm just thinking that it's not like a pregnancy is something that happens often in most cases, so I don't see what the big deal is.

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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    Since when is getting pregnant an illness?
    I'm saying that there are times when men may need to take some time too, so it's really not much different.

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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    I can give you plenty of real life examples where lacking physical capabilities can cost lives. Imagine you're patrolling up a mountain in enemy territory, loaded with 100+ lbs of gear, and the entire patrol has to wait for the weakest link, and people have to start carrying that person's gear for them, thus weighing the team down even further. Because of this delay you can't make your rendevous point and your ride out (helicopter, which you have very limited use of), has to come back at another time, so your patrol is stranded in enemy territory. I know, because I've personally seen this happen.

    The fact is simple, women have a fraction of the physical requirements, even in the infantry, that men do. That is a HUUUUGE problem. These women that passed will be the weakest links in their units. I'm confused why you would defend lowering the quality of our combat arms. Physical fitness DOES matter, and it matters a LOT. If women want to be part of combat arms, they should meet the same requirements their teammates do.

    Frankly though, the unit would just put that weak link back in the fob watching a radio or something, but then again maybe she'll complain of discrimination and they'd have to take her anyway.



    I have personally been outside the wire without resupply for weeks at a time. This is a very real scenario, please do not talk about things you have ZERO idea or experience of.



    Your massive ignorance of the physical requirements of modern combat is undeniable. You seem to picture all war as riding around a tank in the middle of baghdad.

    When in reality it looks like this:



    It must have been a real challenge being weeks in another country with the entire rest of the military out of the country and on vacation. That's your point, right?

    Could you fly an F-35B? If not, what the hell good were you and you should have been washed out. That's your point, huh?

    This messages such as yours of "no woman could do what I did as a grunt!" are less than pointless. A bizarre view that the military consists solely of small squads of foot soldiers trekking off into the wilderness for months at a time ready to battle it out with combat knives - for which the rest of the military should just be eliminated as irrelevant.

    Yeah, the military had a role and need for guys such as you. And being so low in status within military structure they grind in how greatly important guys like you are - the cannon fodder guys as the express goes. And you were important too. I don't mean to say otherwise. But your view that you were everything and everyone else was nothing? Naw, you took the head swelling too seriously.

    Our military doesn't kill more of the enemy because of our infantry. although our infantry has been excellent. It is because we have better technocrats in the military and in the civilian sector supporting the military.

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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    It must have been a real challenge being weeks in another country with the entire rest of the military out of the country and on vacation. That's your point, right?

    Could you fly an F-35B? If not, what the hell good were you and you should have been washed out. That's your point, huh?

    This messages such as yours of "no woman could do what I did as a grunt!" are less than pointless. A bizarre view that the military consists solely of small squads of foot soldiers trekking off into the wilderness for months at a time ready to battle it out with combat knives - for which the rest of the military should just be eliminated as irrelevant.

    Yeah, the military had a role and need for guys such as you. And being so low in status within military structure they grind in how greatly important guys like you are - the cannon fodder guys as the express goes. And you were important too. I don't mean to say otherwise. But your view that you were everything and everyone else was nothing? Naw, you took the head swelling too seriously.

    Our military doesn't kill more of the enemy because of our infantry. although our infantry has been excellent. It is because we have better technocrats in the military and in the civilian sector supporting the military.
    Holy ****ing ****. Are you serious right now? Show me one time where I said "no woman could do what I did as a grunt!" You realize we're talking about women joining combat arms right?

    Basically, you stuck your dick out and made a bunch of highly misinformed statements about physical fitness being irrelevant in modern combat, and I corrected you. You claimed there were no examples where lack of physical fitness could get anyone killed, so I gave you one. Tell me why women should not be held to the same physical standards as men.

    Secondly, it was a 15 month deployment, so I have no idea what you're talking about with "weeks", nor do I have any idea what you mean about me flying an F-35B. If that was the job I was shooting for, I would make sure I met the ****ing standards, and didn't try to get in by doing far less than my colleagues.

    It is highly unpleasant talking to you, especially when you go off on such random ****ing tangents after I corrected you. I've stated from the beginning that women should have to meet the same standards as men for the same job. That is equality. If you'd like to explain to me why they should get a free pass, please do.
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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    And you don't have any clue that the American military consists of more than infantry and tank platoons.
    LOL. Provide proof. LOL. You don't know what you don't know.

    One direction the military is headed is obvious - technology. But the other is assassination (they call it otherwise).
    Killing our enemies is now assassination? if you say so. Sounds a lot better than allowing them to continue to work to kill us. Or do you disagree?

    Technology isn't gender specific contrary to your view of things. And there are missions where women could get in where men could not. How many decades was it before our military FINALLY recognized that the enemies were using their women to kill our soldiers?
    Provide an example of such. One thing our military has been very good at generally, is catching on relatively quick to what our enemy is up to.

    - Our troops conditioned to only see men as warriors?
    Since when?
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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I'm saying that there are times when men may need to take some time too, so it's really not much different.
    From a sexual activity?
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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Well according to your theory, all I'd have to do is take my shirt off.
    What theory is that?
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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    What theory is that?
    That these men can't do anything and are complete imbeciles if there are women around.

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