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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    A typical 'intelligent' conservative response.

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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackAsCoal View Post
    A typical 'intelligent' conservative response.
    The entire post that you applauded was :





    But hey - if you're just here for the feel-good-ism, then I invite you to agree with me that Joko calling for all members of the military to be beaten with hammers until they are equally stupid is as disastrous as it is immoral. It's just as legitimate as the post you liked.

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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Blah blah blah.....its just the same old tired sexist lines from you and your ilk. Sorry.....but the days of the bigots, sexists and homophobes are past and our nation and military are better as a result.
    Blah....blah....blah...."the days of bigots, sexists and homophobes are past"? What a crop of BS. The affirmative action programs are programs demanding government sponsored bigotry, sexism and preferred sexual orientation. None of them made our military better.
    All of them require lowering or eliminating the physical, mental and/or constitutional standards to meet preferred government mandated discrimination.

    Just how will a woman by virtue of gender make an infantry platoon better? That's right, she can't.
    Just how will a gay man by virtue of sexual orientation make a tank platoon better? That's right, he can't.
    Just how will an unqualified minority by virtue of race make an artillery battery better? That's right, he can't.

    Yet each branch has minimum physical and mental standards to be met to be accepted in them. Unless government lowers the standards or ignores the constitutional rights of others.

    You are just another of the type that cares not for the lives of American soldiers but for the acceptance of the BS political correct crowd.
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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Hmmmmm....calling the troop "dumb" and saying that those in the military are not as good as they were "back in THEIR day" is badmouthing the troops.
    He never said they were "dumb". He said they have been "dumbed down". If any of them question the morality of another soldiers sexual habits or lower mental capabilities excused by race or physical capabilities excused by gender and how it can lead to negative results in his platoon, he faces disciplinary action. So by definition, he has been "dumbed down" to never question common sense even at the expense of his fellow soldiers lives or his own.

    And yet, you support placing our soldiers in additional self created danger.
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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Suffice it to say....you get rid of the immature attitudes and banter and the nation is much better as a whole. A few sexist pigs can destroy a whole lot. We are only as strong as our weakest link. Remove them and we are stronger.
    LOL. You can't be this silly intentionally can you...never mind.

    Women getting admitted to a branch of the military they can't and won't meet the standards of, will destroy that unit. Lives will be lost unnecessarily.
    And in the same para, you say "we are only as strong as our weakest link". LOL. Oh, the irony. LOL.
    Completely delusional on your part. LOL.
    You don't know one thing about the military and/or how to "make it stronger".
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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Another strawman? No one has suggested that the presence of women in combat will cause the US to lose major battles. We are saying that they will detract from the ability of combat units such as the infantry to function as a single integrated team, reducing their combat efficiency and resulting in increased casualties.



    I'm 30. Feel free to poll the other veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan on this forum who have all told ya'll the exact same thing based on direct, personal experience.
    Is your objection to women and men being in the same small squad in actual combat? Or women in combat roles in general? I can see circumstances where a mixed sall unit isn't going to work, if that's your point.

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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Agree.



    Don't agree. That's a poor excuse. Obviously these young men are lacking discipline if that's the case. I can understand and wouldn't find it unusual to happen some of the time, but it should not be a widespread issue IMO. That just shows a lack of self control and perhaps people like that don't belong in the military at all anyway.
    It may be a "poor excuse" but to deny it won't happen and with very adverse effects to a small unit will not erase the problems. Military planning is supposed to be based on logic not ideal social placement.
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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    It's not like any other job, Chris. When you lose a person on a deployment that reduces your combat efficiency and puts every other person in danger. It has the exact same effect on your combat power as a KIA. If WalMart loses a good manager for a couple months of maternity leave, KMart doesn't get to kill two associates, but Al-Qaeda does. This isn't like your job - in the infantry you sleep together, bathe together, train together, relax together, you're together 24 hours a day, face-to-face proximity, while people are actively trying to kill you. You stay alive when you operate seamlessly as a team, a team that is usually closer than your family. That's why I point out that individual qualifications are irrelevant except inasmuch as they speak to your ability to help the team operate as a team. I'd rather have a mediocre machine gunner who was great at building morale among his fellows than an uber-competent Rambo who introduced tensions into the group any day of the week. Because the first guy doesn't detract from our ability to operate as a team.



    Because A) it reduces combat power, thereby putting other peoples' lives at risk and B) it marks a breakdown in good order and discipline, which the military requires in order to keep from turning into an armed mob.
    The only way what you say makes sense is if ALL the women went on leave for pregnancy at the same time. It's not all of them though, so your argument makes no sense.

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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    It may be a "poor excuse" but to deny it won't happen and with very adverse effects to a small unit will not erase the problems. Military planning is supposed to be based on logic not ideal social placement.
    It should not happen. Obviously these "boys" are not very well trained if they cannot control their urges.

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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    LOL. You can't be this silly intentionally can you...never mind.

    Women getting admitted to a branch of the military they can't and won't meet the standards of, will destroy that unit. Lives will be lost unnecessarily.
    And in the same para, you say "we are only as strong as our weakest link". LOL. Oh, the irony. LOL.
    Completely delusional on your part. LOL.
    You don't know one thing about the military and/or how to "make it stronger".
    Well, the "standards" certainly are an issue, aren't they? But, then, the fuss mostly is over changing the standards, isn't it?

    Winning battles and wars no longer are decided upon which side had soldiers who would win more arm wrestling contests. Thus, we come tot he question of is the best Marine the one who can do the most pull-ups? For how 95+% will be used in combat, no. Yet people are furious over changing pull-up standards for women (or anyone.)

    Marines don't meet the standards of Navy Seals. Does that make them inferior Marines who will "get people killed" and therefore should be washed out?

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