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Senate approves nuclear option

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There are 93 judicial openings that Obama can now fill..You only have McConnell to blame for pushing this one over the cliff..McConnell could have allowed a few here and a few there..Now he will get 93 shoved up his ass where they belong .

Enjoy it Linc, I just wonder what is down the road when someone like McConnell become Senate Majority Leader if he won't pull this option out of his hat time and time again. Like it or not, the precedence has been set. As to the future, it is all open game. This was just the first bomb, missile what ever to be dropped or fired, how many more to come? I do not trust Reid or McConnell, apparently you do.
 
Wasn't that just awful. We had a chance....and blew it.

Oh well. Ever onward through the fog.

Schumer would have pulled the plug without Reid around, probably sooner..ReoubLies got exactly what they deserved today..When would you have filled the 93 openings on the Federal Courts??They will now be filled toot sweet .
 
I'll not try to change you mind. My beef is not with Obama, it is with Reid.

Someone...if it was you I apologize for not remembering... mentioned earlier that they were wondering why Reid would make this move now, at this particular time? What's coming up to be voted on that might not have made it under the old rules? It just seems odd since we have another debt ceiling confrontation looming that you would think would be on everyone's front burner, not appointees to District courts.....Time will tell us, I guess.
 
Modern Germany is an amalgam of pro-socialist and pro-liberty ideals. While it has adopted a few concepts that could be representative of what a Social Democracy would look like it still has a very strong Capitalist core.
Germany is a perfect demonstration that social democracy and capitalism are not at all mutually exclusive. They make it all work together and there is no danger of them becoming a communist state.
Your fears of the US becoming a communist state because we may adopt a few socialist programs are ridiculous.
 
Someone...if it was you I apologize for not remembering... mentioned earlier that they were wondering why Reid would make this move now, at this particular time? What's coming up to be voted on that might not have made it under the old rules? It just seems odd since we have another debt ceiling confrontation looming that you would think would be on everyone's front burner, not appointees to District courts.....Time will tell us, I guess.

It wasn't me. I never thought of that pol, the debt ceiling vote. The current CR runs out on Jan 15 and the debt ceiling vote has to occur prior to Feb 7. Today's action definitely could be done again in the senate on either of these two bills. But the house first must pass a bill of its own.
 
Someone...if it was you I apologize for not remembering... mentioned earlier that they were wondering why Reid would make this move now, at this particular time? What's coming up to be voted on that might not have made it under the old rules? It just seems odd since we have another debt ceiling confrontation looming that you would think would be on everyone's front burner, not appointees to District courts.....Time will tell us, I guess.
Hello Polgara--to directly answer your question, one of the 3 court of appeals judges filibustered in the last week was passed 55-43 after the nuclear option..The other two will be up shortly..The other 90 federal openings out of a grand total of 873 judges, over 10%, will shortly be approved to catch up with the judicial backlog..I trust a future President Christie against this House, even if McConnell leads the Senate in 2016, unlikely since the GOP has far more seats to protect that cycle..President Christie should not have 82 cabinet/judicial appointees blocked out of an historical total of 168..This fight today has zero to do with next year..IMO, battle lines are already drawn as they have been by Cantor and his coup for 5 years..
 
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Levin realizes this move may very well come back to bite them in the butt in the near future.

It just goes to show what a bunch of low life hypocritical scum the Democrats have become.

How is this going to advance the cause of their party ?
 
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There are 93 judicial openings that Obama can now fill..You only have McConnell to blame for pushing this one over the cliff..McConnell could have allowed a few here and a few there..Now he will get 93 shoved up his ass where they belong .

Oh well, they can be fired soon enough.

If Janet Reno can do it, so can the next AG.
 
Someone...if it was you I apologize for not remembering... mentioned earlier that they were wondering why Reid would make this move now, at this particular time? What's coming up to be voted on that might not have made it under the old rules? It just seems odd since we have another debt ceiling confrontation looming that you would think would be on everyone's front burner, not appointees to District courts.....Time will tell us, I guess.

This could be the real reason, MONEY read away.

Senate Dems placate dispirited core with change
The Associated Press - By DONNA CASSATA - Associated Press
4 hours ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — By limiting the ability of Republicans to block President Barack Obama's nominees, Senate Democrats sought to placate the party's core liberal activists dispirited by the troubled rollout of the health care overhaul and government snooping ahead of midterm elections in which a president's party typically loses seats in Congress.
Republicans insist that the move engineered by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., on Thursday won't matter in next year's congressional races as the political fallout over Obama's health care law registers with voters. Senate Democrats voted unilaterally to change the Senate's filibuster practices and take away the minority party's ability to block presidential nominees for key appellate judgeships and top federal agency posts with just 40 or 41 votes.
With the change, Democrats scored points with liberal groups that can deliver money and mobilization in 2014 congressional races with control of the House and 21 Democratic and 14 Republican Senate seats at stake. Seven of the those Senate seats now held by Democrats are in states that Obama lost in 2012 to Republican Mitt Romney, some by 15 percentage points or more.

To read more go to:

Senate Dems placate dispirited core with change - Charter.net
 
What this allows is MEL WATT, to head up Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

Talk about the Fox watching over the Hen House.
 
and Sen. McConnell said why can't we have a straight up or down vote when in the majority--which McConnell face came first

Mc Connell was all bark and no bite. Reid bites
 
Never suggested he wasn't a hypocrite about it, just like McConnell is now also a hypocrite from the visa versa side. I don't care though, back then, now, 100 years ago.... the whole supermajority for non-constitutionally mentioned items shouldn't be allowed.

See #387
 
What this allows is MEL WATT, to head up Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

Talk about the Fox watching over the Hen House.

So future President Christie should not have his own people ??
 
the government is the people. how can the people be slaves to themselves?

Lots of ways. Remember that whole eternal vigilence thing? When the people sleep through a century or so we end up with a government that only vaguely resembles the Constitution and a country that is ruled more than it is free.
 
Hello Polgara--to directly answer your question, one of the 3 court of appeals judges filibustered in the last week was passed 55-43 after the nuclear option..The other two will be up shortly..The other 90 federal openings out of a grand total of 873 judges, over 10%, will shortly be approved to catch up with the judicial backlog..I trust a future President Christie against this House, even if McConnell leads the Senate in 2016, unlikely since the GOP has far more seats to protect that cycle..President Christie should not have 82 cabinet/judicial appointees blocked out of an historical total of 168..This fight today has zero to do with next year..IMO, battle lines are already drawn as they have been by Cantor and his coup for 5 years..

What do courts do that don't have enough judges? Does everything just back up until they can get to it?

Greetings. NIMBY. :2wave: Do you keep in touch with folks on our old site?
 
Mc Connell was all bark and no bite. Reid bites

I do not underestimate McConnell..I do my best to try to think like they do to anticipate their next move tomorrow..GOPers will need to get PPACA back front in center for the Sunday talk shows..
 
I do not underestimate McConnell..I do my best to try to think like they do to anticipate their next move tomorrow..GOPers will need to get PPACA back front in center for the Sunday talk shows..

It all ties in. This move was to stack federal courts in order to defeat challenges to ACA regs.
 
What do courts do that don't have enough judges? Does everything just back up until they can get to it?

Greetings. NIMBY. :2wave: Do you keep in touch with folks on our old site?

Many of these courts have needed to bring retired judges out of retirement..Check out the Sen. Grassley bill to decrease the DC court of appeals from 11 to 8--referred to by some as a reverse FDR-court-packing bill..This change today does not apply to SCOTUS justices and legislation..Now, if the opposition party wants some more, we can give them the rest..So be it..
 
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This was a power grab by the Democrats to overload one court, the DC Circuit, which is the court that is the ONLY court (other than the SCOTUS) to hear cases regarding Congress. Think about that.

That court is currently balanced; 4 Democrats and 4 Republicans.

This action will make it 7 Democrats and 4 Republicans.

By adding into this, the Presidential nominations to Administration Executive positions, they have killed the "consent" capability of the minority in the Senate. That part was only for political cover to make it seem more reasonable to those uneducated as to how our government has worked since the 1870.

This will come back to bite the Democrats in the butt as soon as the Republicans win the Senate again.

I'm more afraid of Ted Cruz having unfettered reign than I am the Democrats when it comes to Presidential appointees.

This was a major mistake. And all over loading the DC Circuit in favor of the Democrats.

Shame on them all...
 
So you're for nullifying the 2012 election also..

Wow, we can do that? Sure! Sign me up. Nullify an incompetent lame duck. Let's go. Too bad we couldn't do that with Bush in the last two years of his last term. Oh wait, isn't that largely what happened?
 
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