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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Really? So Dole, McCain and Romney were all "hard right"?

    They were only somewhat to the right of the leftists on the other side.
    Dole, I voted for Perot. Although I did vote for McCain, Romney, I voted for Johnson. I was talking about choices like Aiken, Mourdock last year senate candidates. Here in Georgia the choice for senate next year may boil down to Broun, hard right vs. Michelle Nunn which really none of us really know where she stands. But in the last governors race the choice was Deal, hard right vs. Barnes, hard left. But I suppose hard right and hard left is all in the eyes of the beholder.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Yeah right - libertarians view progressives as Nazi's..... Progressives are nothing more than Fascist freaks to us... You live to destroy the Bill of Rights.....

    RINO's are just as bad but they're a dying breed...

    Real republicans are getting their party back from the fat cat tyrannical RINO's who pay just as much attention to the Constitution and Bill of Rights as progressives do...

    That simple...
    The fact that you talk about "real Republicans" shows that you really are a Tea Partier. Libertarians (real ones at least) don't give two ****s about the Republican party. Remember how Romney was going to win Illinois according to you? Right, Romney's not an authoritarian .

    As a lover of Ayn Rand, you would know that she was an atheist, pro-choice, and in favor of people making their own choices. How is it that you can be all about Rand and espouse views that are 100% opposite to hers?


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Conservatives are rapist?...... Please elaborate on that...

    Funny how 95% of criminals in prison are democrats/progressives - many of those rapist sicko's use progressive "open sexuality" logic to justify their rape and molestation crimes.
    Well it's your hobby, right? Just like liberals kill babies for fun.

    Going to back up your "95% of criminals are Democrats" or are you making **** up again? My bet is the latter. Googling it turned up nothing.


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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrylek View Post
    I also have only flimsy doubts (the libertarian constitutionalists would object, but they are still a small minority in the GOP). Still, Democrats are going into history books as the party that just have demolished yet another (if a fairly minor) limitation to the power of the Executive.
    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    : If taking a series of baby steps towards a goal hides ultimate intent under the radar, it's usually done that way. Few become alarmed, because "it really doesn't amount to much," and it's only when the public becomes aware that things just aren't the way they used to be, and they've lost another freedom, that the clamor begins. Of course, at that point, it's too late to change or undo what has been done...or so we're told. Sad..

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    Now why is it that it's the Democrats that are always degrading the people's liberty and increasing the power of the government?

    Could it be the great liberal fallacy of liberal omnipotence and infallibility WRT other people’s decisions for themselves.
    Obama looked fazed at this press conference Thursday. He believed in the fantasy that the government could completely reorder the health system and the public would thank them for doing so. He believed that the plan would work. Just as he believed public works projects and a bailout of state governments would lift the economy.
    . . .
    Obama has done one great service to America. He has shown, in an almost neon light display, the terrible consequences of liberal policy and the limits of government. For 5 years, Obama has run almost the entire liberal playbook. The public can now see how much of that book is a fantasy.
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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Now why is it that it's the Democrats that are always degrading the people's liberty and increasing the power of the government?

    Could it be the great liberal fallacy of liberal omnipotence and infallibility WRT other people’s decisions for themselves.

    Failed Left-Wing Policies Sinking Obama's Presidency
    Indeed, "liberals" (as we call social democrats in America, in our bizarre fashion) are ideologically predisposed to the "fatal conceit", as Hayek called it. But it is hard not to notice that massive expansions of government power happened just as happily when "conservatives" were in charge. After all, the only Senator who voted against the Patriot Act in 2001 was a liberal - Russ Feingold. And out of the 66 who said Nay in the House, only 3 were Republicans: Ron Paul, Butch Otter (now Governor of Idaho), and Bob Ney of Ohio.

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrylek View Post
    If memory serves right, Trent Lott (R-Miss), in 2002 or so. Supporting my point.
    Why did he threaten it?

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    See the chart and tell me that Democrats abused the filibuster the same as the republicons.
    Again it is a republicon thing to filibuster EVERY nomination.
    Attachment 67157160
    McConnell brought this on himself.
    He is a stubborn and stupid man.
    Thank you for that chart. Those numbers tell the entire story very clearly.
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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by SayMyName View Post
    Great point....Thank you. Then, the Democrats do have the Constitutional authority to do exactly what they are doing now. The Republicans should take note for the future. The section noted gives to each house the power to determine the rules of its proceedings.
    Of course it does. And of course they do...

    However... the Democrats need to remember Newton's Third Law of Motion.

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrylek View Post
    Indeed, "liberals" (as we call social democrats in America, in our bizarre fashion) are ideologically predisposed to the "fatal conceit", as Hayek called it. But it is hard not to notice that massive expansions of government power happened just as happily when "conservatives" were in charge. After all, the only Senator who voted against the Patriot Act in 2001 was a liberal - Russ Feingold. And out of the 66 who said Nay in the House, only 3 were Republicans: Ron Paul, Butch Otter (now Governor of Idaho), and Bob Ney of Ohio.
    I think that we are still in agreement. I'm not thrilled with the expansion of government power with legislation either.

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Why did he threaten it?
    Because Democrats, majority in Senate, were holding up President's nominees, of course.

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