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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    Because it can both ways and destroys a long stand rule and tradition of the senate.
    Can what both ways?

    And why should anyone give a crap about a "tradition," with no Constitutional basis, that is holding up the entire government?

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Wow, what a well thought out and reasoned response. Removing all doubt about your level of understanding. Get educated.
    Sometimes someone is just plain wrong, and that's all that needs to be said. Like you, back there.
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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    The loons have many more interesting appointments like the "The Wise Latina" and that other fruitcake that Obama put on the Supreme Court.

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    The loons have many more interesting appointments like the "The Wise Latina" and that other fruitcake that Obama put on the Supreme Court.
    Yay for out of context quote mining and no substantive criticisms of Sotomayor or Kagan whatsoever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Yay for out of context quote mining and no substantive criticisms of Sotomayor or Kagan whatsoever.
    Ha! The mention of their names is a substantive criticism. Do you even realize the low level of respect that Americans have for liberals?

    Nice try though.

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    Ha! The mention of their names is a substantive criticism.
    No, it's really not. Not on the intellectually honest plane where most of us reside.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    Do you even realize the low level of respect that Americans have for liberals?
    Show me a scientific poll that illustrates the disdain "Americans" have for "liberals," as if those were mutually exclusive groups in the first place.

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    Nice try though.
    I wish I could say the same to you.
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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Harry Reid finally comes through

    The Senate has voted to change its rules so that a simple majority is required to confirm judicial nominations and executive branch picks — the so-called “nuclear option.”
    The final vote was 52-48. The previous threshold was 60 votes to bring such nominations to a final up-or-down vote.
    “The threshold for cloture on nominations not including the Supreme Court, is now a majority,” Sen Pat Leahy (D-Vt.), the Senate president pro temp, declared after the vote.
    Three Democrats voted with Republicans against the change: Carl Levin (D-Mich.), Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) and Mark Pryor (D-Ark.). Levin is a longtime senator; Manchin and Pryor come from red states.
    Shortly after the vote, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s (D-Nev.) office sent around a memo noting that the Senate has changed its procedures using a majority vote 18 times since 1977. Republicans, though, note that none of the changes rise to the level of today’s change.

    Senate approves nuclear option
    Yeah ole Harry came through for ya!




    This move will surely allow the lefties to pack the courts but I don't think you realize the implications it has in store for you in the future. For if the Senate on a partisan vote change the rules to avoid filibusters on judges, the next majority can use the same tactics in repealing Obamacare, passing a Balanced Budget Amendment and anything else they want to put out there. If the House maintains their majority which looks likely, and Republicans take the majority in the Senate which currently looks very possible as does a Republican president, it may well be the very thing that will allow Congress to undo the damage that the left has done to this country. They could reign in the Department of Education, Department of Energy, and other agencies like the EPA which keeps pumping out feckless numbers of new regulations killing jobs, violating property rights and raising heating costs for many Americans by 46%.

    You want to change the rules? Well two can play that way and when the Republicans are done cleaning up the mess the left has created, they can then restore the rule of law.

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    Emphasis added by me.

    Then you may want to read the Constitution again. Specifically Article I, Section 5, Clause 2.
    Great point....Thank you. Then, the Democrats do have the Constitutional authority to do exactly what they are doing now. The Republicans should take note for the future. The section noted gives to each house the power to determine the rules of its proceedings.

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Cause your so unbiased.



    Biased or unbiased, everyone is entitled to their opinion in the USA, eh?

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    yeah ole harry came through for ya!




    this move will surely allow the lefties to pack the courts but i don't think you realize the implications it has in store for you in the future. For if the senate on a partisan vote change the rules to avoid filibusters on judges, the next majority can use the same tactics in repealing obamacare, passing a balanced budget amendment and anything else they want to put out there. If the house maintains their majority which looks likely, and republicans take the majority in the senate which currently looks very possible as does a republican president, it may well be the very thing that will allow congress to undo the damage that the left has done to this country. They could reign in the department of education, department of energy, and other agencies like the epa which keeps pumping out feckless numbers of new regulations killing jobs, violating property rights and raising heating costs for many americans by 46%.

    Y
    ou want to change the rules? Well two can play that way and when the republicans are done cleaning up the mess the left has created, they can then restore the rule of law.



    If the GOP ever wins enough seats to control the Senate and they wants to change the rules so that the Democrats can block everything that they try to do, that's fine with me.

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