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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    There should be no reason to require 60+ votes for a Presidential nomination. NONE. Finally Harry Reid had the balls to tell the Republicans to stick it where the sun doesn't shine.
    Would you have said that when the democrats were holding up republican nominees?

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

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    Pretty much says it all.....and Reid's thinking. No mistaking where he stands now.
    Senator Harry Reid will go down in history as one of the most famous or infamous senators in history. I think McCain said it correctly, "When the Majority can change the rules when ever they want, you have no rules." Yep, take off the boxing gloves. Any type or form of stability from one administration to another has been tossed out the window. But this is what Senator Reid and his fellow democrats wanted.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    It is repealable. In fact if and this is a big if, if it looks like the 7 democratic senators from red states like they will lose their seats, it does now for 4 of them. They will join a couple of other conservative democrats like Manchin calling for it repeal early next year to mid summer. When it comes to politicians getting re-elected and self preservation is number one. Me, I will just wait and see what happens. Rumors are already afloat about this.
    They knew they were in trouble all along Pero.....3 years awaiting this rollout and it is a disaster. Site even went down with just 500 users. There was no preparation and getting it all set up. Now the Democrats just completely divided a lot of Bi partisian-ship legislation that was being worked on together, with this little stunt.

    This Nuclear Option will work against them come election time. Polls are starting to go over 85% on repeal and start over. Now that more and more of it fails and they can't keep reaching their numbers. It is the Democrats that will be seen as covering up and then looking to go around the people and the Constitution. Plus lets not forget it will come back around full circle at the end of 2015 going into the presidential election.

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    democrat hypocrisy:


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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    What most people don't realize the filibuster added a bit of stability to our system. It prevented this wild swings. Now that the cat is out of the bag with this nuclear option that can be used by any and all majority leaders, they might as well go ahead and do away with the filibuster completely. An example of would could happen is Obamacare was passed during President Obama and a Democratic majority in the senate. Come 2017, if the GOP wins the white house and take control of the the senate, they can repeal Obamacare by just 51 votes and there is nothing the Democrats can do about it but offer the Republican "CONGRATULATIONS." After all it was the Democrats that let this monster loose.
    Well if the Republicans win the WH in 2016, there is a strong chance they themselves would do away the filibuster themselves so they could repeal Obamacare.


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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    They knew they were in trouble all along Pero.....3 years awaiting this rollout and it is a disaster. Site even went down with just 500 users. There was no preparation and getting it all set up. Now the Democrats just completely divided a lot of Bi partisian-ship legislation that was being worked on together, with this little stunt.

    This Nuclear Option will work against them come election time. Polls are starting to go over 85% on repeal and start over. Now that more and more of it fails and they can't keep reaching their numbers. It is the Democrats that will be seen as covering up and then looking to go around the people and the Constitution. Plus lets not forget it will come back around full circle at the end of 2015 going into the presidential election.
    Be careful what you wish for. Court packing can trump many state as well as federal laws. Gun rights (individual may keep and bear arms) is all but gone and SSM (strong personal sexual desire) will soon become a new civil right - all thanks to judges. The new wave of judicial review seems to be whatever is "progressive" is what the constitution really meant to say.
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    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Well if the Republicans win the WH in 2016, there is a strong chance they themselves would do away the filibuster themselves so they could repeal Obamacare.
    President Paul Ryan really won't be a dirty trickster, which is why he will be President Paul Ryan and not Ding Dong The Witch is Gone Clinton

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Well if the Republicans win the WH in 2016, there is a strong chance they themselves would do away the filibuster themselves so they could repeal Obamacare.
    They wouldn't need to have the presidency. Repeal doesn't have to be signed by the POTUS so her/his affiliation doesn't matter here. Filibuster (that still exists for legislation btw) won't be effective if the reps have both houses of congress.

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Be careful what you wish for. Court packing can trump many state as well as federal laws. Gun rights (individual may keep and bear arms) is all but gone and SSM (strong personal sexual desire) will soon become a new civil right - all thanks to judges. The new wave of judicial review seems to be whatever is "progressive" is what the constitution really meant to say.
    I figure the Republicans will use whatever stall tactics they can.....in the meantime. They don't have to give any ground over anything significant. McConnell has sounded off on the issue too.

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

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    President Paul Ryan really won't be a dirty trickster, which is why he will be President Paul Ryan and not Ding Dong The Witch is Gone Clinton
    I would be surprised if they didn't do just that (provided they took the Senate). If you don't believe when they ascend to the White House (and Senate) they would use the "electoral mandate" against their political opponents, well, you're pretty innocent. How are we framing the Obamacare issue right now? It's already about the majority of the American people being against it, and those darn Democrats that didn't negotiate with the other half of the country to make the bill sensible. What would happen? Those darn Democrats are once again standing against the majority of the American people by filibustering our platform and our attempts to repeal Obamacare.
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