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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    And you are correct to say a Majority Leader Cruz in the future will launch his own nuke, as you would say, on legislation or a SCOTUS Justice..
    It doesn't matter to me now, since the Senate was frozen in an "Aaron Burr" filibuster on everything..
    If Repubs want to change rules back to the 67 votes to raise taxes or whatever, so be it..
    I don't see a President Christie allowing it..Frankly, I wish we could fast-forward three years from now .
    Once again, read up on the issue, you're got it worng. And the POTUS doesn't have anything to do with senate rules, nor does he have any say in the matter.

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Except if you've been following along you'd know this dem rule change does not apply to SCOTUS nominations or to legislation. It's strictly centered around non-SCOTUS judicial appointments.
    Yeah, that's what they are saying right now, well at least most of them. It was reported this morning that one of the Democrats was already saying that they'd use the nuclear option to appoint supreme court justices (just can't remember which one), and I think that's what Obama is going to end up doing.

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Cause your so unbiased.
    Mostly just see the Base of the GOP chasing away what they call RINOs and as a result losing the votes of Gays, Immigrants, Blacks, and Women. So, pray tell. How do you see them winning?

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Mostly just see the Base of the GOP chasing away what they call RINOs and as a result losing the votes of Gays, Immigrants, Blacks, and Women. So, pray tell. How do you see them winning?
    Obamacare.

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Obamacare.


    I doubt gays, immigrants, blacks, women and the young will be changing their votes over to the GOP simply because Obamacare hit a few snags.

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    a bogus threat from a typically overstated george will
    by then Obamacare will be as 'easy' to repeal as a social security
    we already see that the GOP has nothing to offer to replace it
    don't think they intend to remove access to newly acquired healthcare from the vast numbers of its low information base
    It will be as easy to repeal as the Medicare expansion in 1989.

    And on the topic of the thread, here is the NYT opinion on the 'nuclear option' in the narrow scope it was applied, back in 2005
    A decade ago, this page expressed support for tactics that would have gone even further than the "nuclear option" in eliminating the power of the filibuster. At the time, we had vivid memories of the difficulty that Senate Republicans had given much of Bill Clinton's early agenda. But we were still wrong. To see the filibuster fully, it's obviously a good idea to have to live on both sides of it. We hope acknowledging our own error may remind some wavering Republican senators that someday they, too, will be on the other side and in need of all the protections the Senate rules can provide.

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Yeah, that's what they are saying right now, well at least most of them. It was reported this morning that one of the Democrats was already saying that they'd use the nuclear option to appoint supreme court justices (just can't remember which one), and I think that's what Obama is going to end up doing.
    Well then they better get a move on and have one of their operatives take out Ginzberg, because she's not budging. If they try that before an election they'll lose everything. The public historically doesn't like it when they mess with the court that way. Even when FDR was loved he heard extreme negative from the public when he threatened to pack the court. It was the only thing that made him back down.

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post


    I doubt gays, immigrants, blacks, women and the young will be changing their votes over to the GOP simply because Obamacare hit a few snags.
    I never understood why people take individuals, wrap them up in a single attribute, and toss them around like tools. Last time I checked, your skin color, time in this country, sexual orientation,age, or gender doesn't plays a role in intelligence and cognitive thinking.

    If any individual feels they are negatively affected by Obamacare( cancelled policy, increased premiums, increased deductions, increased copays, decreased choice in doctors, etc ), that will be on their mind when they vote.

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post


    I doubt gays, immigrants, blacks, women and the young will be changing their votes over to the GOP simply because Obamacare hit a few snags.
    Gays and blacks were already in the hip pocket of the dems. But women? You betcha Obamacare is going to be a big factor with them. Bye, bye dem senate.

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    I never understood why people take individuals, wrap them up in a single attribute, and toss them around like tools. Last time I checked, your skin color, time in this country, sexual orientation,age, or gender doesn't plays a role in intelligence and cognitive thinking.

    If any individual feels they are negatively affected by Obamacare( cancelled policy, increased premiums, increased deductions, increased copays, decreased choice in doctors, etc ), that will be on their mind when they vote.
    yes, for most their vote will be based in self interest
    and for the masses, especially the minority populations, do you really believe the GOP offers them a better alternative than the democrats? only an amazing republican presidential candidate could do that. and i do not see that person on our political horizon
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    A shutdown falls on the President's lack of leadership. He can't even control his party and get people together in a room. A shutdown means the President is weak ~ Donald Trump 2013

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