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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    What is the alternative? Wait until a Republican is elected and then push Conservative Toadies into the courts? Are all judges "toadies"? No free thinkers? No constitutional guidelines?

    If you listen to extremists from either party, you will give up all hope for America. But look, we're still standing after ll this time. Things balance out in due course.

    Meritocracy - we sure could use some.
    I don't disagree with you - I simply point out the blatancy of the Democrat attempt to flood the courts with liberals who will do their legislative bidding for them. Puts the lie to all the noble talk about competent, qualified, justices being held up and Republicans just being obstructionists. If that's the criteria for liberal judges, no wonder they're being filibustered.

    As for liberal toadies vs. conservative toadies on the courts - most conservatives will tell you that there isn't a single liberal toady who ever rules with a conservative bent but there are dozens of conservative examples, some now on the Supreme Court, who make a habit of voting with the liberals, to the great disappointment of conservatives, because they follow the law or defer to the legislative branch.
    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F. Buckley Jr.

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    There must be a reason that Reid took the nuclear option at this time. Could it be all the lawsuits they might be expecting over Obamacare, and he needs to quickly pack the court with his cronies.
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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Since republicans have already proven they're are willing to shut down the government for ideological reasons and to obstruct democracy, is there any doubt that Republicans wouldn't have changed the fillabuster rules if they controled the senate? The dems did the right thing.

    McConnell made a huge miscalculation in not letting the 3 federal judge appointments come to a vote. He didn't think Reid would change the filabuster rule, but after years of obstruction, not to mention the recent attempt to eliminate the three vacant seats, he forced the democrats hand and now instead of just 3 judge appointments....there will be 97 because of the long backlog of obstructed nominations. LOL

    It will be a very long time before Republicans can tilt the judiciary in their favor now.
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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    There must be a reason that Reid took the nuclear option at this time. Could it be all the lawsuits they might be expecting over Obamacare, and he needs to quickly pack the court with his cronies.
    If Reid hadn't changed the rules, the republicans would have if and when they controled the senate.

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    If Reid hadn't changed the rules, the republicans would have if and when they controled the senate.
    Oh you can predict the future now.
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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Oh you can predict the future now.
    Based on the republicans willingness to actually shut down the government over a law they didn't like....YES.

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    There must be a reason that Reid took the nuclear option at this time.
    Could it be all the lawsuits they might be expecting over Obamacare, and he needs to quickly pack the court with his cronies.



    I believe that the reason for this change is that enough Democrats finally realized that it was time to start doing what the American people sent them to Washington, D.C. to do

    Reid didn't make the decision to do this by himself.

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Lots of ways. Remember that whole eternal vigilence thing? When the people sleep through a century or so we end up with a government that only vaguely resembles the Constitution and a country that is ruled more than it is free.
    I do remember: "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty."

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Based on the republicans willingness to actually shut down the government over a law they didn't like....YES.
    It wasn't done during the Bush Administrations when Democrats filibustered so you...

    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
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