Page 41 of 86 FirstFirst ... 31394041424351 ... LastLast
Results 401 to 410 of 860

Thread: Senate approves nuclear option

  1. #401
    Sage
    Renae's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    San Antonio Texas
    Last Seen
    10-23-17 @ 10:14 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    38,972
    Blog Entries
    15

    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    sorry i thought your signature was part of your original message.
    No, just a signature.
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



  2. #402
    warrior of the wetlands
    TurtleDude's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Ohio
    Last Seen
    Today @ 10:58 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    180,606

    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    There should be no reason to require 60+ votes for a Presidential nomination. NONE. Finally Harry Reid had the balls to tell the Republicans to stick it where the sun doesn't shine.
    I guess you were saying the same thing when Dems blocked Miguel Estrada and Peter Keisler from the DC court-two men who were far far better qualified than say Kagan?



  3. #403
    Sage
    polgara's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    NE Ohio
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:03 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    18,339

    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Many of these courts have needed to bring retired judges out of retirement..Check out the Sen. Grassley bill to decrease the DC court of appeals from 11 to 8--referred to some as a reverse FDR-court-packing bill..This change today does not apply to SCOTUS justices and legislation..Now, if the opposition party wants some more, we can give them the rest..So be it..
    Thanks, Linc. Couldn't figure out why the House said what they did about DOA. Makes sense now, since legislation is supposedly not included!

  4. #404
    Sage
    Fenton's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:06 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    26,230

    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    So future President Christie should not have his own people ??
    His OWN PEOPLE ??

    WE just took on over 5 and a half TRILLION dollars in Fannie and Freddie's debt because Politicians LIKE MEL WATT did everything in their power, including lying through their teeth, to protect the GSE's before the wen't bankrupt.

    The House Financial Services Committee began debate on September 11, 2003 and held multiple hearings over the next several weeks. In supporting the bills, Republicans focused on GSE’s potential impact on the broader financial system. Democrats focused solely on the mortgage lending targets, stating there was no risk to the broader financial system because the federal government would bail out the GSEs if necessary.


    Sen. Charles Schumer (D, NY): “And my worry is that we’re using the recent safety and soundness concerns, particularly with Freddie, and with a poor regulator, as a straw man to curtail Fannie and Freddie’s mission.”

    Rep. Maxine Waters (D-CA): “nearly a dozen hearings where, frankly, we were trying to fix something that wasn’t broke… In fact, the GSEs (Fannie, Freddie) have exceeded their housing goals. What we need to do today is to focus on the regulator, and this must be done in a manner so as not to impede their affordable housing mission – a mission that has seen innovation flourish, from desktop underwriting (no formal analysis) to 100% loans (no collateral).”



    Rep. Maxine Waters (D, CA), speaking to Housing and Urban Development Secretary Mel Martinez: “Secretary Martinez, if it ain’t broke, why do you want to fix it? Have the GSEs ever missed their housing goals?”


    "Mel has over four decades of experience on issues related to housing and housing finance," said Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Los Angeles), who added she was "extremely disappointed" by the Senate vote.


    Yea, let the guy who helped ruin Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac go back in and Run them. It's stupidity beyond the pale as that POS should be kept as far away as possible from those two GSEs.

    According to Obama... "Mel understands as well as anybody what caused the housing crisis,"

    Problem is, Democrats LIE, and I have yet to find one on any message board who truly UNDERTANDS what caused the housing crisis. You might as well put ACORN in charge and kiss what principle the two GSE's currently have goodbye.

    Obama Puts Watt In Charge Of Mortgage Agencies He Helped Ruin - Investors.com
    The New Democratic Party Slogan :

    " Return to Power By Any Means Necessary "

  5. #405
    Sage
    Hatuey's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Last Seen
    Today @ 08:42 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    42,019

    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I guess you were saying the same thing when Dems blocked Miguel Estrada and Peter Keisler from the DC court-two men who were far far better qualified than say Kagan?
    I'm curious about your comparison. What exactly made Miguel Estrada more qualified than Kagan? Was it a particular case? Or maybe some work experience Kagan didn't have?
    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

  6. #406
    warrior of the wetlands
    TurtleDude's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Ohio
    Last Seen
    Today @ 10:58 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    180,606

    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I'm curious about your comparison. What exactly made Miguel Estrada more qualified than Kagan? Was it a particular case? Or maybe some work experience Kagan didn't have?
    Kagan has no real experience. She got a little as the SG

    Estrada had been in the SG's office actually handling cases and arguing them before appellate courts.

    Keisler-it isn't even close. He had been WH counsel, acting AG, DAAG-civil and Sidley and Austin's Supreme Court practice head with several arguments before the USSC and tons before other courts.



  7. #407
    Sage
    Perotista's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Georgia
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:11 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    17,925
    Blog Entries
    24

    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    This was a power grab by the Democrats to overload one court, the DC Circuit, which is the court that is the ONLY court (other than the SCOTUS) to hear cases regarding Congress. Think about that.

    That court is currently balanced; 4 Democrats and 4 Republicans.

    This action will make it 7 Democrats and 4 Republicans.

    By adding into this, the Presidential nominations to Administration Executive positions, they have killed the "consent" capability of the minority in the Senate. That part was only for political cover to make it seem more reasonable to those uneducated as to how our government has worked since the 1870.

    This will come back to bite the Democrats in the butt as soon as the Republicans win the Senate again.

    I'm more afraid of Ted Cruz having unfettered reign than I am the Democrats when it comes to Presidential appointees.

    This was a major mistake. And all over loading the DC Circuit in favor of the Democrats.

    Shame on them all...
    I agree on the shame on them all. I too am more afraid of what a McConnell and a Cruz would do if they became Senate Majority Leaders with what will from now on be known as the Senator Harry Reid Option. What a gift to someone like Cruz. I do not think Senator Reid really thought this through. Cruz or even McConnell will not hesitate to use the nuclear option to get what they want. Wow! What a can of worms to open.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

  8. #408
    Sage
    Hatuey's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Last Seen
    Today @ 08:42 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    42,019

    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Kagan has no real experience. She got a little as the SG

    Estrada had been in the SG's office actually handling cases and arguing them before appellate courts.

    Keisler-it isn't even close. He had been WH counsel, acting AG, DAAG-civil and Sidley and Austin's Supreme Court practice head with several arguments before the USSC and tons before other courts.
    Thanks. Now I understand better. So holding positions like AG, DAAG-civil and White House Counsel mean one is better qualified for SCOTUS? What about justices who don't haven't held said some of those positions and still are considered "qualified" like say Roberts? What kind of experience would they require?
    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

  9. #409
    Sage
    Perotista's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Georgia
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:11 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    17,925
    Blog Entries
    24

    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Thanks, Linc. Couldn't figure out why the House said what they did about DOA. Makes sense now, since legislation is supposedly not included!
    This is what happens when one bomb is dropped by one side in the senate, another bomb is dropped by the house on the other side and the war escalates from there. If the atmosphere in Washington isn't toxic enough already. Reid has to add more poison to it. Soon both sides will be launching nukes at each other over this. Up until today, at least both side kept the war in D.C. conventional. I think that has change with missiles launch, how much destruction will occur once these nuke missiles land, who knows.

    All I know is one side is always blaming the other. You started by filibustering, no you started by tabling all the bills from the house, then okay, I launch my first missile by doing away with the filibuster, then the house launches their with the DOA, here we go WWIII. I think the divisions in Washington just grew from oceans to a universe. This is not good.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

  10. #410
    warrior of the wetlands
    TurtleDude's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Ohio
    Last Seen
    Today @ 10:58 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    180,606

    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Thanks. Now I understand better. So holding positions like AG, DAAG-civil and White House Counsel mean one is better qualified for SCOTUS? What about justices who don't haven't held said some of those positions and still are considered "qualified" like say Roberts? What kind of experience would they require?
    when the opening came up I went and talked to the guy who was our appellate chief. a liberal Jewish guy who was 8th in his class at Harvard law-and who took off election day in 2008 and 2012 to work for Obama. So I said-who is the best available guy for Bush to pick. And he said without thinking-John Roberts. and I said WHO. and my appellate chief said-the smartest guy on the DC Circuit who was a legend as federal appellate attorney before he was put on the DC circuit. My AC said "this guy is widely considered the best guy in oral arguments before the supremes". he is the guy you hire if you have a case going for argument.

    that's pretty strong



Page 41 of 86 FirstFirst ... 31394041424351 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •