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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Someone...if it was you I apologize for not remembering... mentioned earlier that they were wondering why Reid would make this move now, at this particular time? What's coming up to be voted on that might not have made it under the old rules? It just seems odd since we have another debt ceiling confrontation looming that you would think would be on everyone's front burner, not appointees to District courts.....Time will tell us, I guess.
    It wasn't me. I never thought of that pol, the debt ceiling vote. The current CR runs out on Jan 15 and the debt ceiling vote has to occur prior to Feb 7. Today's action definitely could be done again in the senate on either of these two bills. But the house first must pass a bill of its own.
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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Someone...if it was you I apologize for not remembering... mentioned earlier that they were wondering why Reid would make this move now, at this particular time? What's coming up to be voted on that might not have made it under the old rules? It just seems odd since we have another debt ceiling confrontation looming that you would think would be on everyone's front burner, not appointees to District courts.....Time will tell us, I guess.
    Hello Polgara--to directly answer your question, one of the 3 court of appeals judges filibustered in the last week was passed 55-43 after the nuclear option..The other two will be up shortly..The other 90 federal openings out of a grand total of 873 judges, over 10%, will shortly be approved to catch up with the judicial backlog..I trust a future President Christie against this House, even if McConnell leads the Senate in 2016, unlikely since the GOP has far more seats to protect that cycle..President Christie should not have 82 cabinet/judicial appointees blocked out of an historical total of 168..This fight today has zero to do with next year..IMO, battle lines are already drawn as they have been by Cantor and his coup for 5 years..
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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Levin realizes this move may very well come back to bite them in the butt in the near future.
    It just goes to show what a bunch of low life hypocritical scum the Democrats have become.

    How is this going to advance the cause of their party ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    There are 93 judicial openings that Obama can now fill..You only have McConnell to blame for pushing this one over the cliff..McConnell could have allowed a few here and a few there..Now he will get 93 shoved up his ass where they belong .
    Oh well, they can be fired soon enough.

    If Janet Reno can do it, so can the next AG.
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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Someone...if it was you I apologize for not remembering... mentioned earlier that they were wondering why Reid would make this move now, at this particular time? What's coming up to be voted on that might not have made it under the old rules? It just seems odd since we have another debt ceiling confrontation looming that you would think would be on everyone's front burner, not appointees to District courts.....Time will tell us, I guess.
    This could be the real reason, MONEY read away.

    Senate Dems placate dispirited core with change
    The Associated Press - By DONNA CASSATA - Associated Press
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    WASHINGTON (AP) By limiting the ability of Republicans to block President Barack Obama's nominees, Senate Democrats sought to placate the party's core liberal activists dispirited by the troubled rollout of the health care overhaul and government snooping ahead of midterm elections in which a president's party typically loses seats in Congress.
    Republicans insist that the move engineered by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., on Thursday won't matter in next year's congressional races as the political fallout over Obama's health care law registers with voters. Senate Democrats voted unilaterally to change the Senate's filibuster practices and take away the minority party's ability to block presidential nominees for key appellate judgeships and top federal agency posts with just 40 or 41 votes.
    With the change, Democrats scored points with liberal groups that can deliver money and mobilization in 2014 congressional races with control of the House and 21 Democratic and 14 Republican Senate seats at stake. Seven of the those Senate seats now held by Democrats are in states that Obama lost in 2012 to Republican Mitt Romney, some by 15 percentage points or more.

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    What this allows is MEL WATT, to head up Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

    Talk about the Fox watching over the Hen House.
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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    and Sen. McConnell said why can't we have a straight up or down vote when in the majority--which McConnell face came first
    Mc Connell was all bark and no bite. Reid bites
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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Never suggested he wasn't a hypocrite about it, just like McConnell is now also a hypocrite from the visa versa side. I don't care though, back then, now, 100 years ago.... the whole supermajority for non-constitutionally mentioned items shouldn't be allowed.
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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Yes he was driven by the party on obstruction to make an about face on that wasn't he.
    No one is driven to be a hypocritical liar, that comes from within.
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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Oh well, they can be fired soon enough.

    If Janet Reno can do it, so can the next AG.
    Janet Reno fired judges ??
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