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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    so when you're not proud of the POTUS and get called on it CHEEZE, just cry race--pretty soon it will be "you lie"
    Are you mad? You made the implication and now you're projecting because you got caught.

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    But he hasn't been able to due to unrelated events, like two dozen phony scandals.. It is about nominees but play your "worse" games if you must.. Reid has temporarily stopped the "wrongs" of the minority party, not their rights.. he must continue to use it again on nominees held up due to TEAparty primaries back home--at no time has he brought up SCOTUS nominees--please clean this noise up No Dem., especially Sen. Reid, has ever brought up legislation..please clean this up also..And, you can be sure McConnell will push this legislative filibuster to create another crisis .
    Whether you're right about Reid not pulling this on legislation, I don't know but would not put it pass him. Now that the cat is out of the bag, I know full well if McConnell ever becomes Senate Majority Leader, he wouldn't hesitate to use the Senator Harry Reid Option on anything and everything. I hope who ever is running in KY beats him, because McConnell reminds me of LBJ, LBJ was one vindictive SOB when it came to getting his way as Senate Majority Leader way back when, McConnell strikes me the same way. I think McConnell would have at least thought twice before pulling something like this, but not anymore since Reid did this. This by itself doesn't bother me, it is the precedence it has set.
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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Never suggested he wasn't a hypocrite about it, just like McConnell is now also a hypocrite from the visa versa side. I don't care though, back then, now, 100 years ago.... the whole supermajority for non-constitutionally mentioned items shouldn't be allowed.
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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Today, we're in full agreement. This whole thing has been blown out of proportion. Changing the rules because you want to give your team a momentary advantage is not only petty, it's downright unsportsmanlike. I would completely support Republicans if they made this an election issue and dragged Democrats through the coals for it. It's disgusting.
    I know what you mean. I think the president deserved an up or down vote on all his nominees and I didn't like filibustering them. But this nuclear option has now left me not caring if the president gets one more nominee or not. Perhaps I am now more on the not side of things.
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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    how does McConnell's position compare to that he had in 2005??
    which of the two faces of McConnell came first??
    is it okay to damn America now for what is perceived to have happened then?
    or do you believe what McConnell said about Obama ?
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    you play twister, i'm not interested... both parties are chock full of imbeciles, and there isn't a damn thing you can say to make my like your imbecilic Democratic party... or the idiot GOP, for that matter..


    don't talk to me about Harry Reid.. I know more about him that you will ever know.... he's scum... he's corrupt as ****... and because fact don't matter and party is everything to you and your ilk, you adore him.
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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    here is a thought, maybe the republicans are (ab)using the filibuster so that they can prove their message that government does not work and use it as their message to campaign on.

    maybe we can bring balance by adopting the old roman system of tribunes of the people.

    of course that had its own problems too, as shown in this documentary of tiberius Gracchus and how he was a radical in roman politics for wanting land reform:

    ( the important parts in the video i am referencing is from 1:27- to 4:10)

    For me it is more than the filibustering going on. It is also the tabling of most of the bills coming from the house by Reid. The senate has the power to change, amend, delete and add anything they want to those bills, it is in their power. So I looked at the filibuster and the tabling as tit for tat in today's poison atmosphere know as Washington D.C. I have told Nimby many times to prove the republicans as the bad guys, first Reid has to bring those bills to the floor to do his thing as is in his power. Delete the poison pills, amend and add what he wants, then if the republicans filibuster, there is not doubt who is at fault. But senator Reid wouldn't do that.

    I do not expect anything else to get done as long as Obama is president and the GOP controls the house. This nuclear option pulled today is like another Chernobyl and radiated that poison atmosphere tens time over.
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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I know what you mean. I think the president deserved an up or down vote on all his nominees and I didn't like filibustering them.
    It is not possible to get a vote today without the nuclear option as you say--how much more evidence do you need--I have never seen you talk in these riddles before--
    But this nuclear option has now left me not caring if the president gets one more nominee or not. Perhaps I am now more on the not side of things.
    as with PPACA--you now support stalemate and the GOP of NO--
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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    You keep forgetting to mention how far Sen. Frist took the disagreement in 2004 by being the only Majority leader to ever campaign in the state of the minority leader Sen. Daschle, giving us Sen. Thune..
    Frist and McConnell were all about "can't we have an up or down vote" in 2005!!Short memory??
    Short memory is possible when I am in the mood I am in. But I am not looking at the past, I am wondering how many times this option will be used by either side. I don't like what I see.
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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Whether you're right about Reid not pulling this on legislation, I don't know but would not put it pass him.
    this is just reid-hate-bull****
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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post

    And just for fun, thanks to the Washington Times:
    I don't know. I actually have grown fond of the back and forths. Truth be told, the public hates the nomination process only when their side is affected. Hypocrisy naturally follows, no matter who is in charge, no matter the decade. Knowing that, I say "join them" without any problem. Be two-faced. At least you have moved beyond the hurdles by knowingly arguing on thing when it suits you, then arguing the other for the same. It's the ones who pretend to have any ethics that are amusing.
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