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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    The GOP still has the right to filibuster legislation and SCOTUS nominees and you know this will,
    so you're wrong on that one in trying to slam Sen. Reid.

    How many straws did you need to break the camel's back??

    That is absolutely incorrect, as wrong as can be..
    Legislation is not included from today..I'll take it as your anti-Sen. Reid--hackery .
    I know once you push the tooth paste out of the tube, you ain't going to get it back it. I can guarentee this will not stop with this one instance. If you think it will this is the first and last of the Senator Harry Reid Option, you are badly mistaken. I would wage now that he has used it once, he will use it again and again.

    My hackery says this, Senator Reid let the genie out of the bottle. The precedence has been set. Yes, he limited it this time, but what about next time. What about if the Republicans gain 6 seats next year, you do not think they won't use the Senator Harry Reid Option? Oh, I am sure they will. What Senator Reid did today was prove that all the power in the senate lies with the majority leader whoever in the future that may be. That majority leader whoever it maybe, perhaps McConnell, perhaps someone else. That majority leader when he gets fed up with a filibuster on any subject, bill, nominee or whatever, can always pull the Senator Harry Reid Option.

    This is fair game now. From 1806 until today the minority party rights were protected. That has been sunk as sure as the Titanic sank. But I suppose all along it has just been the respect for tradition that the filibuster was retained. So much for tradition.
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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    the government is the people. how can the people be slaves to themselves?
    What are you blathering about?
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    The race card--Chez--that didn't take long--remember when you guys called Clinton the first "black" President??
    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    What kind is that?

    Reagan? I already stated he was not a favorite of mine.

    Oh, hehehe, were you pulling out the race card?

    Good lord...
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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelJR View Post
    If they think the house was gridlocked before hahaha, oh wait till they see what's next. This is going to be comical. Can one of the free states please just secede already so we can get this show on the road? The foreplay is getting boring.

    What they don't realize, is this works BOTH ways. I suppose that means the judicial branch will be just another wing of the executive now (not that it hasn't been flush with Ideologues already).

    Gotta love that system of checks and balances So, progressives, please explain to me what happens when there's another Bush in office, or worse, a Bushbama hybrid hellbent on a complete police state....
    That's the one thing I've noticed about progressives...lack of any foresight. I swear they sniff glue in the capital building bathrooms. Good luck to us all, this will have long term implications we can't even comprehend. Washington is populated by functional window lickers. Knee-jerk emotional responses with little thought into it. Typical.
    Again, you're proving what's wrong with Congress these days. When one side doesn't get their way through normal process they cry foul and threaten to punish the other side. It's maddening! To understand how we got to this point, folks have to remember the agreement that was made in July 2013 when Sen. Reid last threatened to use the "nuclear option".

    Republicans apparently agreed not to filibuster (block) future presidential nominations throughout the rest of Obama's presidency. (See summary brief here and this article which provides alittle more detail.) Apparently, they went back on their word. So, here we are back to the past when the Senate once moved legislation forward by simple majority vote.

    I understand the power behind the filibuster especially in the hands of the minority party, but if all you're going to use it for is to stonewall and bring senate business to a halt then it's better to be rid of it than to retain it. Let Senators vote their conscience; if a nominee is viable, has the experience and the background to hold the position for which he/she has been nominated for then let them vote on the nominee straight-up and not be bound to party ideology.
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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Most certainly. His claim was hard to support anyways.
    but the nominees were being fillibustered not because of what they said or if they were unqualified. they were being blocked because obama chose them.
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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    but the nominees were being fillibustered not because of what they said or if they were unqualified. they were being blocked because obama chose them.
    Then what about the 1600 they didn't block?

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I know once you push the tooth paste out of the tube, you ain't going to get it back it. I can guarentee this will not stop with this one instance. If you think it will this is the first and last of the Senator Harry Reid Option, you are badly mistaken. I would wage now that he has used it once, he will use it again and again.
    Let's just waste the remaining three years of Obama filibustering in the Senate and just saying NO to everything in the House..
    Not exactly a Reform position ..
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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    What are you blathering about?
    sorry i thought your signature was part of your original message.
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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    I turned my back long ago.
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    That phraseology tells volumes about you as well .

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    what about the 82/168 grand total t6hey did
    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Then what about the 1600 they didn't block?
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