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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Yeah, I dislike both Reid and McConnell. Both put their party way ahead of country and anything else. If Mitchell and Dole were in charge of the senate, this wouldn't have come to a vote, it wouldn't even have been threaten. Heck, even Daschle and Lott wouldn't have let it get this far. I tell you this, I never seen this coming.
    Today, we're in full agreement. This whole thing has been blown out of proportion. Changing the rules because you want to give your team a momentary advantage is not only petty, it's downright unsportsmanlike. I would completely support Republicans if they made this an election issue and dragged Democrats through the coals for it. It's disgusting.
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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Finally the Senate is a step closer to it's constitutional mandate which reserves super majorities for specific things, not everything.

    He should've done this 3 years ago.
    They've only been doing this for 225 years...
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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    That's the problem. The politcally right wing people who matter in Congress won't be too forgiving about this. Aides on both sides will draft speeches feeding the masses bull**** and then they'll use outrageously dangerous options like this as they wish. This is all coming from Hatuey. Proud member of DebatePolitics who has supported and defended Democrats on the forum for nearly a decade.
    Ok yes, that's true. And democrats will blame them even though they caused it. Just like passing a unpopular bill in the middle of the night with a bare majority. Which caused the GOP to use it as a wedge every chance they get. That's what comes of majority rule.

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Enjoy it my friend. One better hope come 2016 that the Republicans do not retain the house, gain control of the senate and the presidency. If they do, you can count on them to use the Senator Harry Reid Option or Precedence to repeal Obamacare, to cut taxes on the rich, to do away with the EPA and so on. Mark my word, the Republicans will use the Senator Harry Reid Option to the max. When they do this, no Democrat at all should complain or holler, after all this is exactly what they wanted. Hurray.
    here is a thought, maybe the republicans are (ab)using the filibuster so that they can prove their message that government does not work and use it as their message to campaign on.

    maybe we can bring balance by adopting the old roman system of tribunes of the people.

    of course that had its own problems too, as shown in this documentary of tiberius Gracchus and how he was a radical in roman politics for wanting land reform:

    ( the important parts in the video i am referencing is from 1:27- to 4:10)

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Oh...which Senator is posting here?
    I was referring to anyone making those threats. They will be accused of hipocrisy when they make good.

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Heck, even Daschle and Lott wouldn't have let it get this far. I tell you this, I never seen this coming.
    You keep forgetting to mention how far Sen. Frist took the disagreement in 2004 by being the only Majority leader to ever campaign in the state of the minority leader Sen. Daschle, giving us Sen. Thune..
    Frist and McConnell were all about "can't we have an up or down vote" in 2005!!Short memory??
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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    ... I don't mean to nitpick, but your list only shows the ones which have been appointed. It doesn't show which ones have been filibustered. One can be filibustered and still be appointed once the filibuster ends. The weight is on him to show that ALL of them have been filibustered - you showing which ones have been appointed does nothing to contradict his claim.... or maybe I'm wrong about filibusters.
    Your right. Here the last District Judge confirmed Debra Brown was done so without filibuster...during the same session where two others were...

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Out of 168 nominees filibustered in our history, 82 during Obama..
    Sen. Reid actually did the RepubLies a favor by not quite reaching 50%..

    All the GOP hammered away in 2005 was an "up-or-down-vote"..
    Let's play twister .
    you play twister, i'm not interested... both parties are chock full of imbeciles, and there isn't a damn thing you can say to make my like your imbecilic Democratic party... or the idiot GOP, for that matter..


    don't talk to me about Harry Reid.. I know more about him that you will ever know.... he's scum... he's corrupt as ****... and because fact don't matter and party is everything to you and your ilk, you adore him.

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    They've only been doing this for 225 years...
    the government is the people. how can the people be slaves to themselves?
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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Your right. Here the last District Judge confirmed Debra Brown was done so without filibuster...during the same session where two others were...

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    Would you now stipulate that this one disproves the 'ALL' profession?
    Most certainly. His claim was hard to support anyways.
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