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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Under Obama I am ashamed of my country......He has ruined our reputation foreign and domestic......He might be a nice guy but as president he is totally clueless............More and more Americans are feeling the same way....His personal approval is in the 30 percentile now.
    Oh you can't be serious about this. I won't say Obama has improved it - but I doubt he's made it any wore. If anything he's on the same path as the previous 5-6 presidents. Mediocre - with massive amounts of dislike towards the end of their presidency (with maybe the exception of Clinton & Reagan) and then general apathy from the American people. We've been disliked overseas by everyone from the Brits to the South Americans for over 50 years. I doubt any recent president has changed the memory of the average foreigner who we've helped oppress.
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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Out of 168 nominees filibustered in our history, 82 during Obama..
    Sen. Reid actually did the RepubLies a favor by not quite reaching 50%..
    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    215 nominees approved.... don't forget to add that number to whatever it you are trying to do here
    All the GOP hammered away in 2005 was an "up-or-down-vote"..
    Let's play twister .
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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    Well, there is no accounting for taste, but interesting choice of words, really telling -- your feeling that you are "under" Obama...
    He is your leader as well ...like him or not.
    That use of the word "under" is common parlance going back centuries when speaking about a national leader's administration.
    I would use the same terminology for any president.
    Read into it what you will,... If you must, but Navy Pride used the term "under Obama" as well.
    Last edited by Buck Ewer; 11-21-13 at 09:08 PM.

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    What were the rules 40 years ago in the Senate when they were last changed..40 years is a drop in time..
    I don't know and even if I did, I'd have to see exactly which rules were changed and why. Regardless of what you present, it wouldn't change my mind on why this rule is particularly dangerous.
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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    My pride of being an American and my pride of America isn't affected by which idiot politician is currently, and temporarily, sitting in the White House.
    Perhaps it isn't something you're consciously aware of, but I do remember the general attitudes of Americans about America then and in comparison to now, Today, esteem is remarkably low by comparison.

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Weigh the appointment filibusters by Democratic senators against the number of republicon filibusters ...
    Then come back here and tell me which party abuses the filibuster rule.
    McConnell's senate minority has filibustered ALL of President Obama's appointments ...
    ALL OF THEM.
    Really..ALL OF THEM? Or is this just ANOTHER example of the 'revisionist history, typical liberal/progressive meme'...check this:

    List of federal judges appointed by Barack Obama

    Based on the link 36 appointed to Court of Appeals, 168 District Courts...again, ALL OF THEM?
    "The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure" - 2006 Senator Obama...leadership failure indeed!

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    not at all--you have shown that only "your kind" of President can allow you to be proud
    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    It's called a sense of pride, sense doesn't allow choice. You don't choose to be prideful

    but at least you admit he's a failure as well...
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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    The current GOP Senate has proven beyond even a rightist hack's shadow of a doubt that this is not 2005..
    They want to put a hold on every nominee and investigate two dozen faux outrage scandals, as stated by Sen. Graham..
    I'm surprised you would quote that the filibuster is about compromise when you know better..
    The GOP is super mad today cuz they can't criticize PPACA and McConnell said just this on the Senate floor!!

    There are no more moderates on the GOP side with respect to the nuclear option in public..They have given up on their own GOP..Off the record today, many Sen. Collins-types are relieved this is finally out there..

    Cloture died today, blame who you will or dance the 2-step that you're not on either side .
    Enjoy it to the fullest Linc, I can guarentee you when the Republican gain control of the senate they will utilize the Senator Harry Reid Option to the fullest. The precedence has finally been set, the cat is out of the bag. I am all for any president, this one, the last one, future ones to nominate anyone he chooses and to surround him with them. The filibuster was wrong, but what happened to day was ten times worse. What Senator Reid has done is to abolish the rights of the minority party. Perhaps this may be the only time Reid will use it, may be he will use it again and again on different nominees, then on to legislation.

    I can guarentee you if the Republicans pick up those 6 seats in the senate next year, on anything important they want passed in the senate, expect to hear the Senator Harry Reid Option being used again and again. You better hope come 2016 that Christie or anyother Republican does not win the presidency and that the GOP doesn't control both chambers of congress. I am sure as horse fly being swated away by the horses tail they will use the Senator Harry Reid Option to repeal Obamacare, to cut taxes on the rich, to do away with the EPA and on and on. Write this down as every Democrat now bask in the glory of Senator Harry Reid.

    I do not think he or anyone else who voted Aye thought this through. But Senator Harry Reid made his bed along with their Democratic Senate collegues, now they must sleep in it from this point in time on.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    82 for Obama, 86 for 43 Presidents
    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Really..ALL OF THEM? Or is this just ANOTHER example of the 'revisionist history, typical liberal/progressive meme'...check this:

    List of federal judges appointed by Barack Obama

    Based on the link 36 appointed to Court of Appeals, 168 District Courts...again, ALL OF THEM?
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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    He is your leader as well ...like him or not.
    That use of the word under is common parlance going back centuries when speaking about a national leader.
    I would use the same terminology for any president.
    Read into it what you will,... If you must but Navy Pride used the term "under Obama" as well.
    Though I didn't read you usage as anything out of the ordinary, have to say using "under" that way is something Americans used to avoid at all costs. Something about our disdain for royalty and the system we fought to become a country.

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