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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

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    Because logically you can't prove a negative. The responsibility is for you to prove your statement is true.
    What a joke he is...He asks you to prove it......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I am forgiving because I expect the same. Republicans won't forget the fact Reid got this through. They'll pounce on it and make Democrats look stupid when Democrats complain about "abuses" of something Democrats pushed through and approved. Again, we can go back and forth on who wanted it and who didn't. All that matters is who made it a reality and nobody is going to forget it was Democrats.
    Political people wont. Voters could care less. This is just something technical that they don't bother to understand. They don't even know what cloture or a filibuster is. They just believe whatever the media and politicians tell them.

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    That's what everyone is saying though. "just wait till we get the Senate back, youll rue the day!"
    That's what whom is saying?
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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    I am proud to be an American under President Obama...
    Speak for yourself.
    So you are proud to be a socialist because that what Obama is.
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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    86 for 43 Presients versus 82 for Obama--all one needs to know
    215 nominees approved.... don't forget to add that number to whatever it you are trying to do here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    I am proud to be an American under President Obama...
    Speak for yourself.
    The fact that you consider yourself or America below the President is a problem. The President works for you.

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    That's what whom is saying?
    Republicans. Look at the first page.

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I am forgiving because I expect the same. Republicans won't forget the fact Reid got this through. They'll pounce on it and make Democrats look stupid when Democrats complain about "abuses" of an approval Democrats pushed through and made valid. Again, we can go back and forth on who wanted it and who didn't. All that matters is who made it a reality and nobody is going to forget it was Democrats.
    The precedence has been set. The genie is out of the bottle, the cat out of the bag. Today the senate has become just anothr house of representatives with no, absolutely none, minority party rights. Senator Reid will be one of the most famous senators ever. When ever the majority party wants something real bad to be passed in the senate that is being filibustered, they will will the Senator Harry Reid Option. His name will be spoken again and again and again on the floor of the senate when ever the majority party doesn't get its way. The Senator Harry Reid Option.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Vice President Biden, then Senator back in 2005--Speaking on the Senate floor in May of 2005, Biden said, "At its core, the filibuster is not about stopping a nominee or a bill, it's about compromise and moderation.
    The current GOP Senate has proven beyond even a rightist hack's shadow of a doubt that this is not 2005..
    They want to put a hold on every nominee and investigate two dozen faux outrage scandals, as stated by Sen. Graham..
    I'm surprised you would quote that the filibuster is about compromise when you know better..
    The GOP is super mad today cuz they can't criticize PPACA and McConnell said just this on the Senate floor!!
    The nuclear option extinguishes the power of independents and moderates in the Senate. That's it, they're done.
    There are no more moderates on the GOP side with respect to the nuclear option in public..They have given up on their own GOP..Off the record today, many Sen. Collins-types are relieved this is finally out there..
    Moderates are important if you need to get to 60 votes to satisfy cloture;
    Cloture died today, blame who you will or dance the 2-step that you're not on either side .
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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Political people wont. Voters could care less. This is just something technical that they don't bother to understand. They don't even know what cloture or a filibuster is. They just believe whatever the media and politicians tell them.
    That's the problem. The politcally right wing people who matter in Congress won't be too forgiving about this. Aides on both sides will draft speeches feeding the masses bull**** and then they'll use outrageously dangerous options like this as they wish. This is all coming from Hatuey. Proud member of DebatePolitics who has supported and defended Democrats on the forum for nearly a decade.
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