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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    more faux outrage and hyperbole--I haven't had my does of FOX yet today--waiting till Megyn--
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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Grassley threatened it today on the SCOTUS, which Reid left out--
    soon Reid will need to complete the nuclear option with legislation--
    maybe then the GOP will come to its senses -
    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Threating to use it in the future will come back to bite Republicans as well. When they do use it they will be accused of hypocrisy for opposing it today.
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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Anything and everything the democrats can do to circumvent the established rules in order to shove their abominable agenda down the throats of America they'll do. This should be no surprise.

    Obama has a tendency to conjure the name of Ronald Reagan in much that he does, likes to try to compare himself to the Gipper.

    Well, I for one am not a huge fan of Reagan.

    There is one thing that Reagan did which Obama has failed at miserably. He made us proud to be American.



    Now, some Obama leg humper is undoubtedly going to say, "This is Reid, Obama had absolutely nothing to do with it, it is a issue of the Legislative branch not the Executive, you Obama haters just will do anything to drag his name into the mud, no matter who does what!!"

    To them I will say -- Grow up. Stop being naive. This is done with the sole intention of stacking the bench with ideologically aligned judiciaries who'll march lock and step with the worldview Obama has for us. If you don't think Reid, Pelosi, and Obama haven't been commiserating, than you really know nothing about political affairs and perhaps your time would be better spent on Pinterest than on a political chat forum.

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Threating to use it in the future will come back to bite Republicans as well. When they do use it they will be accused of hypocrisy for opposing it today.
    Well, the smartest thing they could do is promise to restore the original rules when they retake the majority. However, all I've heard them say is general condemnation of the move. They've not threatened to use it to their advantage when they take the majority.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Well, the smartest thing they could do is promise to restore the original rules when they retake the majority. However, all I've heard them say is general condemnation of the move. They've not threatened to use it to their advantage when they take the majority.
    That's what everyone is saying though. "just wait till we get the Senate back, youll rue the day!"

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    Well, half the people may be cheering him on. I have a personal bone to pick with Hapless Harry and his re-election, thanks to the TP, sticks in my craw.

    Craw - theres a word I haven't seen for a while.

    We'll see how this sorts itself out.
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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    oh my--I know both sides since I watch your station also--
    cussing, a sure sign you're losing today's politics--
    I have no station.
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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Today the senate just became another House of Representatives. From this day forward any party who has the majority in the senate now is free to dispense with a filibuster with only 51 votes. The Precedence has been set. The idea or American ideal as John Adams put it, that we are “A nation of laws and not of man,” is gone. Anytime any party with a simple majority can change the rules and the law that had applied to suit themselves or the man, the nation of law and rules is gone. The rule of man has superseded the rule of law.

    If anyone thinks this will stop here, it won’t. Both parties are now free to change rules that protected the minority party to suit the majority; tyranny of the majority is at hand. When one party controls both chambers of congress and the president, it is now free to repeal any and all laws that have been passed by their opposition party when they were in power; there is nothing now to stop them. No checks or balances on absolute power of a simple majority and that party can pass and enact any legislation it wants as long as it controls both chambers of congress and the presidency. If the Republicans were to gain back the senate, keep control of the house and win the presidency in 2016, I wouldn’t be surprised if they used this Senator Harry Reid Precedence to repeal Obamacare, to cut taxes on the rich, perhaps abolish the corporate tax, privatize social security, abolish the EPA, the labor board, and I could go on and on. All they have to do is use the precedence set today by Harry Reid as he abolished the rights of the minority.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    So you are trying to say that McConnell isn't filibustering more...it's just that Harry is asking the senate to stop filibustering more?
    HA!
    In the definition of the word, McConnell filibustering nearly as often as Reid did. The vast majority of the cloture votes are being called by Reid and succeeding. There was a higher rate of filibusters in the 109th Senate when Democrats were in the minority than there has been in any following Senate. You only have more cloture votes because Reid calls them at more than twice the rate of previous Senate Majority Leaders.
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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Democracy...specifically Social Democracy...is merely a step toward Communism. Read Marx.
    Anyone who thinks Obama is not a socialist are clueless.
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