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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    No, spot on. I'm not surprised it doesn't register on your charts though.
    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Reid has been threatening to do this for years - what was the breaking point now? What changed this week?
    Have you reached a point where you throw up your hands and say "Enough is enough?"

    Well that's what Harry Reid says here:



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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    This rule change was only applied to non-supreme court appointees.
    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    At the current time, it was only for non-SC presidential nominations, but the suggestion was floated that Reid would now move to include "important" legislation - thus the threat from the House.
    Ah, then we'll see. I really think it is time to proceed with these appointments anyway and if that is the limit, I can't get too excited about it.

    They "float" 10 crazy ideas a day in Washington. So, time will tell.

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Have you reached a point where you throw up your hands and say "Enough is enough?"

    Well that's what Harry Reid says here:


    Of course I've reached that point. The radicals the President has been trying to insert in various posts and positions has drawn that reaction for quite some time.

    As the President continues on his quest to turn the United States Government into one giant regulatory agency beholding to few except the chosen ones, I find myself regularly throwing my hands in the air and exclaiming enough.

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    In my opinion you are equating "governing" with "ruling". If one party in a dispute is adamant about their position and the other party is adamant about theirs and no prospect of agreement can be seen on the horizon then both parties need to step back. The idea that one or the other should "win" is unrealistic.
    I'm sure that the founders did not intend that minority parties should rule by obstruction either.
    The constitution calls for majority rule in the Senate... not stalemate by minority obstruction.
    Besides we are talking about non-SC appointees only. They can still have their conformation hearings and grilling before the cameras to make their case.
    If their points are valid then only a very few minds need to be changed to deny an appointment.
    No one is "ruling" by mob rule as the word implies.
    Governance continues as planned.

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    Ah, then we'll see. I really think it is time to proceed with these appointments anyway and if that is the limit, I can't get too excited about it.

    They "float" 10 crazy ideas a day in Washington. So, time will tell.
    Well, one liberal I saw interviewed after the "nuclear option" was voted on said that even though they aren't going to get any of their agenda through at least if they can get all their liberal judges appointed then their agenda will be pushed through the courts. That's a great way to respect democracy. Fill the courts with liberal toadies uninterested in administering the law but making it.
    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F. Buckley Jr.

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Of course I've reached that point. The radicals the President has been trying to insert in various posts and positions has drawn that reaction for quite some time.

    As the President continues on his quest to turn the United States Government into one giant regulatory agency beholding to few except the chosen ones, I find myself regularly throwing my hands in the air and exclaiming enough.
    Do you think the word "Govern" means do whatever you want?


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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Do you think the word "Govern" means do whatever you want?
    Well, hmmm. It sure seems the President thinks that.

    But really, why don't you ask a rational question, if you're going to take the time to do so?

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Of course I've reached that point. The radicals the President has been trying to insert in various posts and positions has drawn that reaction for quite some time.

    As the President continues on his quest to turn the United States Government into one giant regulatory agency beholding to few except the chosen ones, I find myself regularly throwing my hands in the air and exclaiming enough.
    What "radicals" are you referring to?
    Name one.
    If the President were to truly nominate "radicals" ...there are enough moderate Democrats in the Senate to deny appointment of any true "radicals".
    The president has only nominated qualified adept and often centrist people to the courts.
    Unlike Bush who tried to appoint his personal legal adviser, who had never even served as a judge ...anywhere, to the Supreme Court of the United States.
    That was one case where even Bush's staunchest republican supporters had to say, no George try again.
    A Democratic filibuster was unnecessary when the nomination was that radically stupid.

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    What "radicals" are you referring to?
    Name one.
    If the President were to truly nominate "radicals" ...there are enough moderate Democrats in the Senate to deny appointment of any true "radicals".
    The president has only nominated qualified adept and often centrist people to the courts.
    Unlike Bush who tried to appoint his personal legal adviser, who had never even served as a judge ...anywhere, to the Supreme Court of the United States.
    That was one case where even Bush's staunchest republican supporters had to say, no George try again.
    A Democratic filibuster was unnecessary when the nomination was that radically stupid.
    Thank you for your opinion. It was, interesting.

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    What "radicals" are you referring to?
    Name one.
    If the President were to truly nominate "radicals" ...there are enough moderate Democrats in the Senate to deny appointment of any true "radicals".
    The president has only nominated qualified adept and often centrist people to the courts.
    Unlike Bush who tried to appoint his personal legal adviser, who had never even served as a judge ...anywhere, to the Supreme Court of the United States.
    That was one case where even Bush's staunchest republican supporters had to say, no George try again.
    A Democratic filibuster was unnecessary when the nomination was that radically stupid.
    Pick virtually any name from his cabinet for nominated radicals and it's absolute BS that so-called moderate dems would deny any party appointee.

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