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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Yes they do and yes they did.

    Many times.
    There is a difference between "many times" and EVERYTIME.

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    If I'm not mistaken, Senator Graham has indicated he would put a hold on any Obama nominee in committee until such time as the administration releases to congress the transcripts of the FBI interviews of the Benghazi survivors and allows congress to interview them as well. To date, the administration has objected, likely fearing the truth on the ground blows up their storyline.
    Ah. So he didn't "vow" them. He said he would put a hold on any Obama nominee until we find out the hidden particulars of a successful terrorist attack in which a U.S. Ambassador was targeted and killed.

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Depends on their individual constituencies. Some want congress to stop passing new law and busy themselves fixing the stuff already on the books.
    Ummm... That would be governing
    As opposed to anarchy.

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    The 60 vote threshold has been modified many times in the past.
    True, the last time I think was in the 1960's without having to look it up. It was lowered from 67 to 60 for cloture. But it has never been lowered to a simple majority. Now if the Republicans win back the senate in 2014, they can change it back by simple majority vote. But why would they? It only takes a simple majority to defeat any nominee or legislation as it is now.

    I find this very interesting to be arguing procedure on this. I have always felt a president, any president ought to be able to appoint who he wishes. But I also like the confirmation process and I think if we had two different senate leaders beside Reid and McConnell that this problem, this precedence would have never come up. Their problem, both of them is that both work on this my way or the highway approach. This would have never happened or would have been necessary is the leaders were Mitchell and Dole or even Daschle and Lott. But even so, the cat is out of the bag, the precedence set. So now we shall see how this is used in the future on all nominees and legislation.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    There is a difference between "many times" and EVERYTIME.
    The Republicans don't do it every time either any more than your idiotic first claim that the Democrats never do it.

    You told a lie, you got caught. Learn from it.
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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    There should be no reason to require 60+ votes for a Presidential nomination. NONE. Finally Harry Reid had the balls to tell the Republicans to stick it where the sun doesn't shine.
    Yes, and I'm sure the Republicans will soon get the chance to stick Harry where he doesn't shine.

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    They were elected to represent the interests of those who chose them. If those interests end up being contrary to the interests of some other group then it's reasonable to expect disagreement.

    You liberals need to understand that freedom from opposition isn't freedom at all, it's tyranny.
    Freedom from total obstruction is governance.
    We aren't talking about the end of all opposition. Republicons can still debate a nominees qualifications and if their points are valid minds can still be changed.
    Not many minds need to be changed to deny a nominee their appointment.
    They can't just delay forever and for no reason.
    A lot closer to democracy than to anarchistic obstruction IMHO.

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    The Republicans don't do it every time either any more than your idiotic first claim that the Democrats never do it.

    You told a lie, you got caught. Learn from it.
    I never said never.
    I said it is a republicon thing.
    ...and it is.

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Ah. So he didn't "vow" them. He said he would put a hold on any Obama nominee until we find out the hidden particulars of a successful terrorist attack in which a U.S. Ambassador was targeted and killed.
    Why would he relate the two?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Actually, the issue was not that the Republicans were filibuster happy, it was simply that Harry Reid calls a cloture vote on every damn thing for no reason at all.

    I did the math here.

    What the numbers show is that Harry Reid really really really hates floor debates.
    So you are trying to say that McConnell isn't filibustering more...it's just that Harry is asking the senate to stop filibustering more?
    HA!
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