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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    This will give you a good idea:
    There is use ...and then there is abuse.
    This graph demonstrates where McConnell clearly crossed the line.

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Senate approves nuclear option
    i don't support this. that being said, i completely understand why they did it. Republican filibusters against Obama nominees account for half of the 168 filibusters of nominees since 1917. it's simply ridiculous. the shoe will be on the other foot someday, though, and possibly even someday soon. poor strategy for the dems.

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    So rather than "doing nothing" they have done exactly what they were elected to do.
    Do you believe that they were elected to stop all legislative activity,... or were they elected to govern?

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    No I am not. What did he vow to them?
    In the Loop: Loopholes in Lindsey Graham’s Benghazi filibuster threat - The Washington Post


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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    This will give you a good idea:
    And as a reminder, in the past, the majority wouldn't even bother bringing things to the table if it wouldn't get past the filibuster.

    However, in this day and age when every vote, debate, and fart is broadcast live on TV, and replayed numerous times for political ads, getting a "filibuster" vote is politically useful. That is the reason for the dramatic increase, its all political theater.

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    It will. However, I approve of that. For presidential appointments, I do not think it should take 60 votes and I do not think ideology should be used to block appointments, and both those go either way. It is a game both sides play, and it really does need to stop. Unless there is something major with an appointment, some ethics violations, clearly unqualified, something like that, then the president does get to pick. That is entirely appropriate, and it does not matter who is president. I did not support and disagreed with the blocking of Bush nominations(and it happened, bigtime) either.
    Maybe if the two parties stopped trying to **** each other over at every turn, things would not be so ****ed up
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    Correct.

    If the people that we send to congress would spend more time trying to do the nations business and less time trying to screw over the other party maybe we wouldn't be talking about this right now.

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    It's about time Harry.
    There will never be a payback.
    Even if, by some weird turn of events the republicons regain a senate majority...Democrats don't filibuster presidential appointments.
    That is a republicon thing .
    The party of mass obstruction is losing it's grip.



    The G-No-P is about to get a massive dose of reality that is long overdue.

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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Wouldn't surprise me if the three Democrats were instructed to vote against the motion so that once all the Obama nominations have been cleared, one of the three can move reconsideration of the motion and rescind it going back to the 60 vote threshold before they lose the Senate in 2014.
    That doesn't make any sense at all. If Democrats lose the Senate, the Republicans can just institute it again. Remember? It only requires a majority vote to change the rules.
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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    ...Democrats don't filibuster presidential appointments.
    That is a republicon thing .


    Yes they do and yes they did.

    Many times.
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    Re: Senate approves nuclear option

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    That doesn't make any sense at all. If Democrats lose the Senate, the Republicans can just institute it again. Remember? It only requires a majority vote to change the rules.
    Yes, I know, but if the Senate changes hands by a one or two Republican margin, the Republicans may not have sufficient votes to change it, either way. With a very narrow majority, there's no guarantee of unanimity on either side of the issue.
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