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    Re: Pa. pastor suspended for performing gay wedding says he’ll be ‘outspoken advocate

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    He has done his fellow activists no favors with his actions - if anything, he has reflected badly on them.
    Oh I disagree. He's standing up for a legitimate concern that needs addressed, and he did it peacefully and purposefully.

    People who do no favors are the ones who fire-bomb abortion clinics and attack people who wear fur and eat steak.

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    Re: Pa. pastor suspended for performing gay wedding says he’ll be ‘outspoken advocate

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    He is ordained by God. Man can't take that away from him.
    I disagree, he was ordained by the church and can be stripped of it any time the church in question desires.

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    Re: Pa. pastor suspended for performing gay wedding says he’ll be ‘outspoken advocate

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    They can take the ordination they gave him, strip from him the ability to speak in their name, etc. He can call himself what he pleases, he would no longer be a Methodist minister.

    sorry this is false

    just like the Mormons that dont think the change about blacks should have been allowed and the Mormons that do think it is allowed . . . .

    both still Mormons even though they say the others really arent

    what will factually make him no longer a Methodist minister.

    and again are you claiming the Methodist in my area that are fine with this preachers conduct arent real or dont have credentials?
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    Re: Pa. pastor suspended for performing gay wedding says he’ll be ‘outspoken advocate

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    I disagree, he was ordained by the church and can be stripped of it any time the church in question desires.
    yes ONE church, not all
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    Re: Pa. pastor suspended for performing gay wedding says he’ll be ‘outspoken advocate

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    He has done his fellow activists no favors with his actions - if anything, he has reflected badly on them.
    what facts support this or just your opinion has an opponent of his?
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    Re: Pa. pastor suspended for performing gay wedding says he’ll be ‘outspoken advocate

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Oh I disagree. He's standing up for a legitimate concern that needs addressed, and he did it peacefully and purposefully.

    People who do no favors are the ones who fire-bomb abortion clinics and attack people who wear fur and eat steak.
    He declared the rest of the church guilty of hate speech (including those who might be sympathetic to him), and tried to turn his trial into a self-aggrandizing spectacle. Yeah, he lost his side ground in this.

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    Re: Pa. pastor suspended for performing gay wedding says he’ll be ‘outspoken advocate

    It is the head(s) of the whatever church that decide the rules of ordination. Mormons answer to the Living Prophet. If he says you're not a mormon, you're not a mormon, in any sect of the religion. If the Methodist council decides to strip this fellow of his collar, he's no longer a methodist pastor/priest and can no longer marry folks in their name. He'll have to get another church to ordain him or go to the internet.

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    Re: Pa. pastor suspended for performing gay wedding says he’ll be ‘outspoken advocate

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    1.) He declared the rest of the church guilty of hate speech (including those who might be sympathetic to him)
    2.) and tried to turn his trial into a self-aggrandizing spectacle.

    3.) Yeah, he lost his side ground in this.
    1.)really all of the church? hmmmm
    how do you know that again?
    and what speech was he referring to?

    2.) he tried too? seems nothing was made of it before they put him on trail

    you like just makign stuff up dont you, cant you show us what speech he meant

    3.) again only in the opinion of one of his opponents, you

    not to mention did you just judge his whole side based on the actions of him????

    seems you dont like him cause you are like him, stop grandstanding and use love not hate
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    Re: Pa. pastor suspended for performing gay wedding says he’ll be ‘outspoken advocate

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    He declared the rest of the church guilty of hate speech (including those who might be sympathetic to him), and tried to turn his trial into a self-aggrandizing spectacle. Yeah, he lost his side ground in this.
    I think his opinions were more of the church as a whole and not clergy or parishoners.

    Sometimes you need to invoke change with some ruffled feathers. We're talking MLK, not Malcolm X.

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    Re: Pa. pastor suspended for performing gay wedding says he’ll be ‘outspoken advocate

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    It is the head(s) of the whatever church that decide the rules of ordination. Mormons answer to the Living Prophet. If he says you're not a mormon, you're not a mormon, in any sect of the religion. If the Methodist council decides to strip this fellow of his collar, he's no longer a methodist pastor/priest and can no longer marry folks in their name. He'll have to get another church to ordain him or go to the internet.
    facts remains both are still Mormons and this guy can still be a Methodist preacher else ware
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