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Democrats plan to use Chris Christie's comments against House Republicans

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Democrats are preparing a new broadside against vulnerable House Republicans by highlighting critical remarks made about Washington Republicans by New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, a possible GOP presidential contender.

On a number of issues, Christie has been critical of House Republicans this year, particularly over their handling of the October government shutdown, the delayed federal aid to victims of Superstorm Sandy, and the general state of congressional gridlock in the nation's capital.

The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, the official party group responsible for electing Democrats to the House, is planning to launch a messaging campaign that uses the governor’s remarks against sitting House Republicans.
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The Democrats are using Christie in their attempt to take back the House, and destroy the Tea Party. However, it is my opinion that, although the Democrats will gain some seats in 2014, Republicans will remain in control. This is due to a couple of reasons:

1) Due to redistricting, Republicans in the House are in generally very red districts.

2) Mainstream Republicans may attempt to primary out some of their more extremist elements, as part of their war against the Tea Party.

3) Failing efforts to primary out their more radical elements, mainstream Republicans will support Tea Party House members, because they would rather have a Republican of ANY stripe in the House over any Democrat.

4) Republicans will be pouring huge amounts of money into races in which their candidate may be vulnerable.

Bottom line is that, although there is a civil war within the Republican party, there is an even bigger war between Democrats and Republicans over which direction this nation is to take. Neither side is going to be taking prisoners. This will be a scorched earth campaign by both sides. And Republicans, in the end, will pull together and circle the wagons. My prediction is that they will survive the Democrats' attempt to take back the House.

Article is here.
 
Chris Christie is a democratic tool. They are definitely hoping to use him to divide the GOP because they will not retain the WH if they cannot divide the GOP. I would not be surprised to see legions of dems voting in GOP primaries if he is on the ticket for him, but they would never vote for him in the general election even against a horrible democrat.
 
Fisher said:
Chris Christie is a democratic tool.
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Sure, just like Governor Bush criticizing Congressional Republicans was a Democratic tool...Dems are falling for the elementary bad cop-good cop routine again, only this time they are actually helping to position Christie as the good cop - and eventually elect him.

Doesn't anyone remember?
The Bush Triangulation Strategy
 
Cyrylek said:
Sure, just like Governor Bush criticizing Congressional Republicans was a Democratic tool...Dems are falling for the elementary bad cop-good cop routine again, only this time they are actually helping to position Christie as the good cop - and eventually elect him.

Doesn't anyone remember?
The Bush Triangulation Strategy
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The democrats are not going to help Christie win the WH, and of course it is all about George Bush--everything is all about George Bush. If Michelle Obama's lettuce doesn't grow it is because Bush let them stupid old dogs pee on the WH lawn; Hillary's blood cots are because she had to work so hard to undo Bush's damage to the world; Global Warming is caused by left wing blowhards I mean intellectuals having to constantly correct the record to show that everything is George Bush's fault.
 
Fisher said:
The democrats are not going to help Christie win the WH.
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The thread is about Democrats using some of Christie's comments against House Republicans. That means helping him to position himself as a moderate attractive to independents - does it not, even if only a little?

Fisher said:
and of course it is all about George Bush--everything is all about George Bush.
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Huh?! Have you actually read my post?

George Bush engaged in a "confrontation" with House Republicans, and positioned himself a "third way", acceptable candidate; Christie is doing pretty much the same. Why should we ignore the similarity?
 
The fact that Christie knows he is being used as a tool for democrats and continues doing so.....speak volume of his republican/conservative credentials.
 
danarhea said:
The Democrats are using Christie in their attempt to take back the House, and destroy the Tea Party. However, it is my opinion that, although the Democrats will gain some seats in 2014, Republicans will remain in control. This is due to a couple of reasons:

1) Due to redistricting, Republicans in the House are in generally very red districts.

2) Mainstream Republicans may attempt to primary out some of their more extremist elements, as part of their war against the Tea Party.

3) Failing efforts to primary out their more radical elements, mainstream Republicans will support Tea Party House members, because they would rather have a Republican of ANY stripe in the House over any Democrat.

4) Republicans will be pouring huge amounts of money into races in which their candidate may be vulnerable.

Bottom line is that, although there is a civil war within the Republican party, there is an even bigger war between Democrats and Republicans over which direction this nation is to take. Neither side is going to be taking prisoners. This will be a scorched earth campaign by both sides. And Republicans, in the end, will pull together and circle the wagons. My prediction is that they will survive the Democrats' attempt to take back the House.

Article is here.
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I'd tend to agree with this assessment, and I don't think Christie will be the big issue (no pun intended); the Dems have had their "Bush" to rally against; now we have ours in Obama and all his extremely radical leftist administration minions. The Tea Party has been fairly well and effectively dissed as a force to be reckoned with - but they did their job in focusing the nation's ire at the real problem, which is the Democrat's massive overreach in government - led by the teleprompter nobody Obama. These upcoming elections are all fairly and squarely on him and the damage he's done to this nation and our Constitution.
 
danarhea said:
The Democrats are using Christie in their attempt to take back the House, and destroy the Tea Party. However, it is my opinion that, although the Democrats will gain some seats in 2014, Republicans will remain in control. This is due to a couple of reasons:

1) Due to redistricting, Republicans in the House are in generally very red districts.

2) Mainstream Republicans may attempt to primary out some of their more extremist elements, as part of their war against the Tea Party.

3) Failing efforts to primary out their more radical elements, mainstream Republicans will support Tea Party House members, because they would rather have a Republican of ANY stripe in the House over any Democrat.

4) Republicans will be pouring huge amounts of money into races in which their candidate may be vulnerable.

Bottom line is that, although there is a civil war within the Republican party, there is an even bigger war between Democrats and Republicans over which direction this nation is to take. Neither side is going to be taking prisoners. This will be a scorched earth campaign by both sides. And Republicans, in the end, will pull together and circle the wagons. My prediction is that they will survive the Democrats' attempt to take back the House.

Article is here.
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Number one I agree with. The Republcians will retain the house, there are in fact more democratic seats in the toss up column than republican ones if one goes district by district. A gain of 5-10 overall by the Democrats is possible when one throws in the lean columns and factors in retirements, resignations which the Republicans have a lot more. But 10 seats is probably pushing it to the extreme.

Number two, from an article I read, it is the tea party who is attempting to primary out more moderate safe republicans. But MMC did.

I guess time will tell as to what exactly happens
 
Barbarian said:
The fact that Christie knows he is being used as a tool for democrats and continues doing so.....speak volume of his republican/conservative credentials.
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What exactly he "continues doing" that you think he should not?
 
Barbarian said:
He's being used as a tool against more conservative/limited government elements withing the republican party to divide the party for progressive/big government conquest.
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His beliefs don't match yours, why would you expect him to act on your beliefs and not his?

conservative, by the way, does not mean "limited government," nor does liberal mean "big government."
 
Barbarian said:
He's being used as a tool against more conservative/limited government elements withing the republican party to divide the party for progressive/big government conquest.
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How exactly is he doing it? By disagreeing with some tactics employed by some Republicans in Congress? Please. He is a fiscal conservative and a limited government reformer succeeding in a very blue state. He is a looming disaster for the progressives, not an opportunity for "conquest".

Scott Walker: Chris Christie no moderate - Kyle Cheney - POLITICO.com
 
Deuce said:
His beliefs don't match yours, why would you expect him to act on your beliefs and not his?

conservative, by the way, does not mean "limited government," nor does liberal mean "big government."
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Indeed. Liberal actually used to mean "limited government", but then the word was pickpocketed by American social democrats. "Liberal" in France, Germany, Poland or Russia still means, roughly, "moderate libertarian".
 
Deuce said:
His beliefs don't match yours, why would you expect him to act on your beliefs and not his?

conservative, by the way, does not mean "limited government," nor does liberal mean "big government."
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There is already a party for big government/social authoritarians......and that party is democratic party.

True liberals (classical liberalism) is not the same as contemporary liberals we see today.....and American conservatism before it was highjacked decades ago was for preservation of classical liberalism.

Why were American conservatives intended to preserve American liberalism?.....so they can practice their traditions, faith and heritage without government influence or social control.

Two of biggest enemies of American form of conservatism and classical liberalism is government control for social justice and social religion. Both wants use government to control the people.
 
Cyrylek said:
The thread is about Democrats using some of Christie's comments against House Republicans. That means helping him to position himself as a moderate attractive to independents - does it not, even if only a little?



Huh?! Have you actually read my post?

George Bush engaged in a "confrontation" with House Republicans, and positioned himself a "third way", acceptable candidate; Christie is doing pretty much the same. Why should we ignore the similarity?
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George Bush had $50M in the bank before he ever announced and $100M by the time the first primary. Positioning himself a "third way" isn't what got him the nomination or the Presidency. He was not a member of Team Clinton and that was all that mattered to many, much in the way that not being part Of Team Kenya is going to be all that matters of the GOP nominee in 2016.
 
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