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    Re: Fukushima operator starts hazardous year-long fuel removal

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    LOL !!

    No I enjoy when you post generic anti-corprate nonsense.

    It does wonders for your credibillity.

    And there were core meltdowns at Fukishima ?

    LOL !! SO ?!?

    What do you think is at the bottom of those containment vessels ? A black hole ? Satan ? "Godrilla" ??

    It's called CORIUM, and it's contained.

    Those containment vessels are designed to DILUTE molten core material so it can be retrieved and or contained.

    Just like at 3 mile Island and Chernobyl.

    I'll tell you what, ypu keep posting exposing your ignorance, and I'll continue to be amused by your generic cororate drek and lack of knowledge.
    Limits to intelligence can be measured but obviously ignorance has no limits. The coriums melted through and all three in in unknown locations beneath their original containment vessels. The contaminants entering the ocean indicate that the concrete and steel foundations are breached and contaminated groundwater that has been in contact with fissile material is continuing to flow into the Pacific. You'll notice that at Chernobyl, it is referred to as a sarcophagus. The Russians had to burrow underneath and build a tunnel to capture the CORIUM and stop its' penetration into the Earth. At great loss of life, I might add.

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    Re: Fukushima operator starts hazardous year-long fuel removal

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Um, Bman. You said North America.



    The link doesn't say that. It doesn't even declare that any of the increase can be attributed to Fukushima. It says more research is required.

    What you did was pick the largest deviation mentioned and suggest that all of it was attributable to Fukushima, and implied it was for all of the continent.

    Funny that you didn't mention the states that had lower instances of thyroid problems.
    Doesn't change that you hadn't bothered to read or even try to correct what I said. That was that the surge in thyroid problems was in America as opposed to in Japan.

    Especially considering how safe you claim, err, imply radiation is to people exposed.

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    Re: Fukushima operator starts hazardous year-long fuel removal

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Limits to intelligence can be measured but
    obviously ignorance has no limits. The coriums melted through and all three in in unknown locations beneath their original containment vessels. The contaminants entering the ocean indicate that the concrete and steel foundations are breached and contaminated groundwater that has been in contact with fissile material is continuing to flow into the Pacific. You'll notice that at Chernobyl, it is referred to as a sarcophagus. The Russians had to burrow underneath and build a tunnel to capture the CORIUM and stop its' penetration into the Earth. At great loss of life, I might add.
    Dont come in here and lie.

    YOU have NO IDEA where Fukishima's Coriums is located. So stop with your "China Syndrome " nonsense.

    Corium is not the "devil" or dark matter or a singularity thats going to swallow up our Universe.

    It is a mix of core material and reactor sttucture and it COOLS as it dilutes as it makes it way down to the core containment.

    You post made up scenarios and offer it up as "truth" and waste my time.

    Chernobyl's Corium made it through the containment vessel and stopped in a basement.

    Look back in this thread about 4 pages and find my pictures of the Russian Tecnician standing next to the DILUTED "elephants foot".

    Chernobyl's core NEVER even made it out of the upper basement and the tunnel they built was never needed.

    Educate yourself and stop making **** up.

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    Re: Fukushima operator starts hazardous year-long fuel removal

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Dont come in here and lie.

    YOU have NO IDEA where Fukishima's Coriums is located. So stop with your "China Syndrome " nonsense.

    Corium is not the "devil" or dark matter or a singularity thats going to swallow up our Universe.

    It is a mix of core material and reactor sttucture and it COOLS as it dilutes as it makes it way down to the core containment.

    You post made up scenarios and offer it up as "truth" and waste my time.

    Chernobyl's Corium made it through the containment vessel and stopped in a basement.

    Look back in this thread about 4 pages and find my pictures of the Russian Tecnician standing next to the DILUTED "elephants foot".

    Chernobyl's core NEVER even made it out of the upper basement and the tunnel they built was never needed.

    Educate yourself and stop making **** up.
    I don't want to confuse you with facts, but you should call TEPCO of Fukushima fame and tell them where their cores are, because all they know is somewhere under their original locations. It's been to hot, radiation wise to even get robots to take peek a boo photos. Three meltdowns at Fukushima. That's a fact, Jack.

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    Re: Fukushima operator starts hazardous year-long fuel removal

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Dont come in here and lie.

    YOU have NO IDEA where Fukishima's Coriums is located. So stop with your "China Syndrome " nonsense.

    Corium is not the "devil" or dark matter or a singularity thats going to swallow up our Universe.

    It is a mix of core material and reactor sttucture and it COOLS as it dilutes as it makes it way down to the core containment.

    You post made up scenarios and offer it up as "truth" and waste my time.

    Chernobyl's Corium made it through the containment vessel and stopped in a basement.

    Look back in this thread about 4 pages and find my pictures of the Russian Tecnician standing next to the DILUTED "elephants foot".

    Chernobyl's core NEVER even made it out of the upper basement and the tunnel they built was never needed.

    Educate yourself and stop making **** up.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/special_r...obyl/33005.stm

    Here's the skinny on the Chernobyl elephant's foot.
    It burned itself down into 6 feet of concrete and this is exposed.
    The individual and the photographer of which you refer are likely a long time dead.
    "Lava, glass and crystal flow discovered in the base of the reactor In December 1986, an intensely radioactive mass was discovered in the basement of Unit Four and scientists rigged up a crude wheeled camera to investigate. The mass was more than two metres across and weighed hundreds of tons. Because of its odd wrinkled shape, it was christened, “the elephant’s foot”. To approach it meant certain death. Analysis of the material showed that it was composed of sand, glass and nuclear fuel, and the proportion of sand suggested to scientists that a large amount of fuel had escaped from the reactor in this form. Underneath the reactor, the investigation team found steaming hot concrete and, draining into the basement, lava and spectacular unknown crystalline forms - Chernobylite."
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    Re: Fukushima operator starts hazardous year-long fuel removal

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    BBC News | Chernobyl | Containing Chernobyl?

    Here's the skinny on the Chernobyl elephant's foot.
    It burned itself down into 6 feet of concrete and this is exposed.
    The individual and the photographer of which you refer are likely a long time dead.
    "Lava, glass and crystal flow discovered in the base of the reactor In December 1986, an intensely radioactive mass was discovered in the basement of Unit Four and scientists rigged up a crude wheeled camera to investigate. The mass was more than two metres across and weighed hundreds of tons. Because of its odd wrinkled shape, it was christened, “the elephant’s foot”. To approach it meant certain death. Analysis of the material showed that it was composed of sand, glass and nuclear fuel, and the proportion of sand suggested to scientists that a large amount of fuel had escaped from the reactor in this form. Underneath the reactor, the investigation team found steaming hot concrete and, draining into the basement, lava and spectacular unknown crystalline forms - Chernobylite."
    NO, it is NOT EXPOSED. Jeesus why do you keep making s*** up ?

    chernobyl-elephants-foot.jpg

    There it is, and there's a technician standing next to it taking readings. OOOooohhh, I'm waiting for it to suck him in and spit him out, or morph into "Pizuzu", or Satan himself.

    No, it burned through the containment vessel, was diluted by design and then it cooled.
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    Re: Fukushima operator starts hazardous year-long fuel removal

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    NO, it is NOT EXPOSED. Jeesus why do you keep making s*** up ?

    chernobyl-elephants-foot.jpg

    There it is, and there's a technician standing next to it taking readings. OOOooohhh, I'm waiting for it to suck him in and spit him out, or morph into "Pizuzu", or Satan himself.

    No, it burned through the containment vessel, was diluted by design and then it cooled.
    I know you like the pretty pictures, but you should read the link, or get someone to read it to you. Disinformation and misinformation flow from you like water over Niagara Falls. Why do you think there is a huge concrete sarcophagus over the area at Chernobyl? What are they trying to protect you from?

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    Re: Fukushima operator starts hazardous year-long fuel removal

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Doesn't change that you hadn't bothered to read or even try to correct what I said. That was that the surge in thyroid problems was in America as opposed to in Japan.

    Especially considering how safe you claim, err, imply radiation is to people exposed.
    You grossly exaggerated what that supposed surge was, and completely fabricated its supposed attribution. The author of that paper does not say Fukushima is responsible. He suggests it's a possibility that requires further research.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Fukushima operator starts hazardous year-long fuel removal

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    You grossly exaggerated what that supposed surge was, and completely fabricated its supposed attribution. The author of that paper does not say Fukushima is responsible. He suggests it's a possibility that requires further research.
    Hahaha! !

    Well, you were saying that Fukushima was not an issue, nobody would be harmed... yet on the us side, where the radiation would be less of an issue, there's been a surge in thyroid issues in newborns.

    I knew exactly the ways you would try to lie and minimize that fact, you are too predictable.

    I knew you only read that further study was needed, and ignore the rest. You know that correlation is not causation, and the causative stydy would need to be done differently, but its really as predicted. Not by you, but by people that know what they're talking about, that the fallout would cause health problems in the us. Now this study comes out and you play these stupid games rather than concede the possibility that the risks are greater than you were saying.

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    Re: Fukushima operator starts hazardous year-long fuel removal

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Hahaha! !

    Well, you were saying that Fukushima was not an issue, nobody would be harmed... yet on the us side, where the radiation would be less of an issue, there's been a surge in thyroid issues in newborns.

    I knew exactly the ways you would try to lie and minimize that fact, you are too predictable.

    I knew you only read that further study was needed, and ignore the rest. You know that correlation is not causation, and the causative stydy would need to be done differently, but its really as predicted. Not by you, but by people that know what they're talking about, that the fallout would cause health problems in the us. Now this study comes out and you play these stupid games rather than concede the possibility that the risks are greater than you were saying.
    Why did you pick 28% and not -3%? Both numbers appeared in the abstract.
    Last edited by Deuce; 11-28-13 at 11:50 AM.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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