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    Re: Census ‘faked’ 2012 election jobs report

    I don't think the census faked anything. They may have mis-spoke though...
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    Re: Census ‘faked’ 2012 election jobs report

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    No they didn't.

    Will SOMEONE recognize that sourceless statements are complete bull****, please link to this acknowledge of the incident.

    It isnt source-less bull****, the reporter was given the documentation verifying what was told. It tells you in the article.

    It also tells you that the Census Bureau has been investigating the fraud - so far 4 of the 14 reports have been investigated.

    Even the Department of Labor acknowledges it.
    “Yes, absolutely they should have told us,” said a Labor spokesman. “It would be normal procedure to notify us if there is a problem with data collection.”
    Still want to argue that it didnt happen?

    Now we need to find out the who, what, when, where and why of the issue.
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    Re: Census ‘faked’ 2012 election jobs report

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    "Defend the administration at all cost"? There's literally zero evidence the administration has anything at all to do with anything outside of one low-level bureaucrat.
    In real life, when an employee of a company does something wrong it reflects on the bosses ability to manage said employee and upon the company itself. One case here and there is understandable, not even the best managers can control every aspect of everything. But with the amount of cases this administration has faced shows an absolute ineptness to govern.

    No idea what is going on and no accountability for anything. Thats what happens when you elect the lunatics to run the asylum.
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    Re: Census ‘faked’ 2012 election jobs report

    Quote Originally Posted by Imnukingfutz View Post
    It isnt source-less bull****, the reporter was given the documentation verifying what was told. It tells you in the article.

    It also tells you that the Census Bureau has been investigating the fraud - so far 4 of the 14 reports have been investigated.

    Even the Department of Labor acknowledges it.


    Still want to argue that it didnt happen?

    Now we need to find out the who, what, when, where and why of the issue.
    A source with no name is not a source, also you didn't source your statement either. I'd love to see this admission the unemployment numbers were faked in 2012.

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    Re: Census ‘faked’ 2012 election jobs report

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    A source with no name is not a source, also you didn't source your statement either. I'd love to see this admission the unemployment numbers were faked in 2012.
    Issa demands answers after report of fudged unemployment data - CBS News

    The Post obtained confidential Census documents showing that an employee - Julius Buckmon - fudged his data in the months before the election. In an interview with the Post, Buckmon said he was told to fabricate information based on instructions from his superiors.
    Happy now?

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    Re: Census ‘faked’ 2012 election jobs report

    I ask for a source where the census bureau admits to faking these numbers and you give me something that says

    The Census Bureau rejected the accusations, noting that it reported the claims to the Office of the Inspector General as soon as it was made aware of them.


    "We have no reason to believe that there was a systematic manipulation of the data described in media reports," said Stacy Gimbel Vidal, a Census Bureau Spokeswoman, according to Reuters. "As a statistical agency, the Census Bureau is very conscientious about our responsibility to produce accurate Current Population Survey data for the Bureau of Labor Statistics and all other surveys we conduct."
    That's not an admission of anything, its a total and complete denial. This source you gave me even refers to the idea of the numbers being faked to help Obama as a "conspiracy theory." Did you read this source at all?

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    Re: Census ‘faked’ 2012 election jobs report

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    I ask for a source where the census bureau admits to faking these numbers and you give me something that says
    The source that the data was fundged was Julius Buckmon. Julius further claims that he was told from his higher ups to do this. Julius is a source that the data was less then accurate. The census bureau has also acknowledged that this occured. Was it systemic? I have no idea. I hadn't seen anyone in this post claim that it was.

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    Re: Census ‘faked’ 2012 election jobs report

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    The source that the data was fundged was Julius Buckmon. Julius further claims that he was told from his higher ups to do this. Julius is a source that the data was less then accurate. The census bureau has also acknowledged that this occured. Was it systemic? I have no idea. I hadn't seen anyone in this post claim that it was.
    No the cenus bureau has no acknowledge it has occured, are we still talking about the 2012 numbers because Julius Buckman has not worked at the Census Bureau since 2011. Did he fudge the numbers for 2012 a year a ahead of time? That's pretty impressive.

    NY Post Source Julius Buckmon Left Census In 2011 - Business Insider

    Five questions about the New York Post’s unemployment story

    And there's another link to the Census Bureau denying the allegation again

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    Re: Census ‘faked’ 2012 election jobs report

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    A source with no name is not a source, also you didn't source your statement either. I'd love to see this admission the unemployment numbers were faked in 2012.
    Dance around in a circle, Deny it at all cost, Drink the Kool-Aid....whatever you have to do to convince yourself this didnt happen.

    Everything I have said and posted is in the article I linked to in the O.P. Sorry if you cant be bothered to read it in your blind defense of the Administration. I guess you wont let the facts get in the way of your defense.
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    Re: Census ‘faked’ 2012 election jobs report

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    What voter fraud? WTF are you babbling about? This was about employment numbers.
    That was the claim from the guy on CNBC.. one of your guys.. that the manipulation (a certainty according to him) of these numbers was basically voter fraud.
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