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    Re: Census ‘faked’ 2012 election jobs report

    Quote Originally Posted by Imnukingfutz View Post
    Of course they would prefer it not be reported...it is an article that is against "The Chosen One", their exhaulted supreme leader.

    Im sorry, yours was a rhetorical question....sorry.
    The only people who consistently refer to Obama as a "chosen one" or an "exalted supreme leader" are those on the right who feel they must make caricatures of liberals to insult. It's getting kinda old. Most of the "left" isn't to keen on Obama either, we just don't hate his guts like the right does.
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    Re: Census ‘faked’ 2012 election jobs report

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    There is no shocker here. It was already revealed that one of the reasons the employment numbers looked 'better' was because several states didnt bother submitting their numbers. Add to the mix the fact that they simply stop counting people after they exhaust their benefits and its easy to see we simply dont know just how bad it all is.
    Not submitting their unemployment numbers in time is vastly different than making up data out of thin air....which is what this employee claimed happened.

    Side note;
    The same amount of employed people are working now as they were in January 2009 with little difference in numbers, what has changed is the amount of people actively seeking work, it has dropped dramatically...if the people were counted now as they were then, unemployment would be well over 10%.
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    Re: Census ‘faked’ 2012 election jobs report

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post

    The Census employee caught faking the results is Julius Buckmon, according to confidential Census documents obtained by The Post. Buckmon told me in an interview this past weekend that he was told to make up information by higher-ups at Census.


    Who's anonymous?
    The anonymous source is the one claiming it's not just this guy. The Post story also goes into detail as to why this guy was told to make stuff up, and it wasn't "to make Obama's re-election chances better." Did anyone here actually READ more than the first four paragraphs of the story?
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    Re: Census ‘faked’ 2012 election jobs report

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    The only people who consistently refer to Obama as a "chosen one" or an "exalted supreme leader" are those on the right who feel they must make caricatures of liberals to insult. It's getting kinda old. Most of the "left" isn't to keen on Obama either, we just don't hate his guts like the right does.
    "The Chosen One" is not a right wing nickname for Obama...that was given to him by Louis Farrakhan.

    Get with the program man.
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    Re: Census ‘faked’ 2012 election jobs report

    Quote Originally Posted by Imnukingfutz View Post
    "The Chosen One" is not a right wing nickname for Obama...that was given to him by Louis Farrakhan.

    Get with the program man.
    Yeah, Louis Farrakhan, who the vast majority of "the left" thinks is an asshole who we wish would just go away. You guys have run with that idiot's words for years. Again, just because you didn't come up with it doesn't mean you haven't beaten that moronic horse into a bloody pulp.
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    Re: Census ‘faked’ 2012 election jobs report

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    The anonymous source is the one claiming it's not just this guy. The Post story also goes into detail as to why this guy was told to make stuff up, and it wasn't "to make Obama's re-election chances better." Did anyone here actually READ more than the first four paragraphs of the story?
    Yup.

    They made up the info because they couldnt meet quota. So miraculously all those made up calls just happened to be put into the "employed" people category.
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    Re: Census ‘faked’ 2012 election jobs report

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Yeah, Louis Farrakhan, who the vast majority of "the left" thinks is an asshole who we wish would just go away. You guys have run with that idiot's words for years. Again, just because you didn't come up with it doesn't mean you haven't beaten that moronic horse into a bloody pulp.
    Hey, dont be a hater. I am just using a nickname given to him by a fellow leftie.

    If it were my own nickname, it would be more like - the "Narcissistic habitual liar" or the "ass-hat" both of which are better nicknames than the one Farrakhan had given him...but I dont want to interject my own personal thoughts into this.
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    Re: Census ‘faked’ 2012 election jobs report

    Quote Originally Posted by Imnukingfutz View Post
    Yup.

    They made up the info because they couldnt meet quota. So miraculously all those made up calls just happened to be put into the "employed" people category.
    There's no evidence that all of the made-up info registered people as unemployed.

    By making up survey results — and, essentially, creating people out of thin air and giving them jobs — Buckmon’s actions could have lowered the jobless rate.

    Buckmon said he filled out surveys for people he couldn’t reach by phone or who didn’t answer their doors.

    But, Buckmon says, he was never told how to answer the questions about whether these nonexistent people were employed or not, looking for work, or have given up.

    But people who know how the survey works say that simply by creating people and filling out surveys in their name would boost the number of folks reported as employed.

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    Census appears to have looked into only a handful of instances of falsification by Buckmon, although more than a dozen instances were reported, according to internal documents.
    All the story says is that they "could have." Doesn't say they did. And even if he DID register all those people as employed, there's "more than a dozen" instances of Buckmon's fraud, which would move the needle approximately none. That's pretty slipshod journalism, but I expect nothing less from a Murdoch rag.
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    Re: Census ‘faked’ 2012 election jobs report

    Quote Originally Posted by Imnukingfutz View Post
    Hey, dont be a hater. I am just using a nickname given to him by a fellow leftie.

    If it were my own nickname, it would be more like - the "Narcissistic habitual liar" or the "ass-hat" both of which are better nicknames than the one Farrakhan had given him...but I dont want to interject my own personal thoughts into this.
    I find the "narcissist" label hilarious. It's like the right wing became the League Of Armchair Psychologists overnight.
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    Re: Census ‘faked’ 2012 election jobs report

    Quote Originally Posted by Imnukingfutz View Post
    I guess you havent been following the story since it broke yesterday...
    There are two relevant facts:

    1. BLS did not manipulate the data.
    2. The purported localized incident involving an individual (not BLS) had no material impact on the statistics. The revised data still shows exactly the same unemployment rate as had been reported in September 2012 (7.8%).

    In short, the drop in the unemployment rate was real. It was not an artifact of manipulation or fraud.

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