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    Re: Census ‘faked’ 2012 election jobs report

    Quote Originally Posted by Uncensored2008 View Post
    So often people use terms they don't understand - the further to the left, the more common this is...

    Of course a "tabloid" is a publication that pays for source information. The Post is no more of a "tabloid" than the Times, but since the Times clears stories with the party prior to publication, you seek to smear the Post.

    I also notice that you offer nothing to support the contention that the story is accurate - instead you offer just a backhand smear.

    I understand, slander, libel, and demagoguery are the mainstay of the shameful left.
    I'm glad you understand because the two men in the photo are suing the NY Post for libel.....



    But hey, don't let the truth get in the way of your smug snarky ideology....you wouldn't be a right winger without it.

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    Re: Census ‘faked’ 2012 election jobs report

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    I'm glad you understand because the two men in the photo are suing the NY Post for libel.....

    But hey, don't let the truth get in the way of your smug snarky ideology....you wouldn't be a right winger without it.
    Happens all the time.

    { A former FBI informant who helped foil a bomb plot at the 2008 Republican National Convention has sued the New York Times for libel and defamation.

    A Times story from February 22 claimed that Brandon Darby had "encouraged" others to bomb the RNC, when in fact he had been essential to law enforcement efforts that disrupted the plot. Evidence shows that the Times was aware of the error as early as March 3, yet the online version remains uncorrected. Applicable precedent holds that a publisher may be liable for continued publication of defamatory material, even if it was thought to be true when published, if the publisher does not make a sufficient effort to remove that material after being made aware of its inaccuracy.}

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    Re: Census ‘faked’ 2012 election jobs report

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    The NYPost is a tabloid and not a credible news source. So yes, I guess I'm a bit more picky on what I base my opinion on than you.


    I said job data...you know as in "hiring".

    I always thought the unemployment numbers come from "unemployment claims". Polling 60,000 households to represent the entire unemployment rate would seem easy to skew.

    Skewing the job numbers is a pretty serious allegation so I"m going to wait until a credible news source weighs in. But thats just me...ya'll go ahead and believe whatever you want because you will anyway.
    You clearly just looked at the headline in lieu of actually reading the article. The article talks about the unemployment number which is included in....you know, "jobs reports."

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    Re: Census ‘faked’ 2012 election jobs report

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Well since the whole unemployment number is based on information received from companies via a poll basically, then I would suspect that the hard core conservative run companies would do exactly the same, just in the opposite way.
    We don't send in unemployment reports. We are required to pay in to unemployment for each employee, the numbers are generated by the office that sends out the checks. Nice try though, just way off. Not uncommon for someone who bashes business without understanding how it works.

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    Re: Census ‘faked’ 2012 election jobs report

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Well since the whole unemployment number is based on information received from companies via a poll basically, then I would suspect that the hard core conservative run companies would do exactly the same, just in the opposite way.
    Thats flat wrong. BLS survey 60k households monthly to come up with the unemployment rate. They survey companies to post job growth numbers.

    Current Population Survey (CPS)

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    Re: Census ‘faked’ 2012 election jobs report

    Get the anonymous source both in the open and on the record. Until then, your conspiracy theories are just that.

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    Re: Census ‘faked’ 2012 election jobs report

    Quote Originally Posted by Imnukingfutz View Post
    Census ‘faked’ 2012 election jobs report | New York Post

    Honestly, who didnt already "know" this?

    Most of us had our sneaky suspicions this was and is the case, now the truth is coming to light....and yet there are those of you that arent bothered by this...
    Who is this "anonymous" source. If the source's allegations were reliable, the revised unemployment rate numbers would have changed materially. Instead, the revised numbers are as follows:

    August 8.1%
    September 7.8%

    That's exactly what the employment situation report released at the time showed:

    Employment Situation News Release

    Bottom line: The Post's column isn't credible.

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    Re: Census ‘faked’ 2012 election jobs report

    I only read the NY Post story, but the accusation that the employment data was "faked" doesn't jibe with the rest of the story.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Census ‘faked’ 2012 election jobs report

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    There is no shocker here. It was already revealed that one of the reasons the employment numbers looked 'better' was because several states didnt bother submitting their numbers.
    The cumulative U3 figure isn't contingent on state by state reporting but rather a selected number of households. You're likely referring to initial unemployment benefit claims.

    Add to the mix the fact that they simply stop counting people after they exhaust their benefits and its easy to see we simply dont know just how bad it all is.
    Nope. Whether or not the individual is receiving unemployment benefits is not a question asked to survey participants and does not factor into the figures at all. You've been thoroughly misinformed on the issue.

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    Re: Census ‘faked’ 2012 election jobs report

    Amazing how the Libbos ate suddenly opposed to anonymous sources. You can bet if the anonymous source said that the numbers faked the other direction, they would take it to the bank.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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