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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    With $15 billion profit no, they could raise wages without layoffs. Stop acting like walmart can't survive or would have to raise prices if wages went up or were not given massive subsidies.
    Where are your links to unbiased, factual proof that if Walmart's costs go up that they will neither layoff people or raise their prices?


    Walmart is in business to make as much money as they can. They owe it to their owners/shareholders. That is their reason for existing.

    So they will naturally want to maintain their present level of profit. If they do not, their stock will undoubtedly shrink. Possibly drastically.

    If they pay their employees more money - then they MUST raise prices or lay off people or both.


    Just making a small profit is not the point of running a business.

    Making as much money as you possibly can in a legal/ethical manner is the purpose of running a business.

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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    Are those people aware that taxpayers subsidize the wages of underpaid Walmarts employees by providing them with foodstamps? Are they aware that Walmarts is likely to destroy their local businesses and the decent paying jobs that they support? Are they aware that Walmarts encourages their suppliers to pay even lower than the usual low wages paid to their employees in third world countries? It is not informed consent unless they are aware of these facts.
    That is no justification. Two wrongs dont make a right.

    People shouldnt try to LIVE off of a Walmart job if they cant LIVE off a Walmart job. It's not the taxpayer's fault that they developed no skills, didnt move up or move on, didnt move somewhere where there were better jobs or had more obligations than they can pay for.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Where are your links to unbiased, factual proof that if Walmart's costs go up that they will neither layoff people or raise their prices?


    Walmart is in business to make as much money as they can. They owe it to their owners/shareholders. That is their reason for existing.

    So they will naturally want to maintain their present level of profit. If they do not, their stock will undoubtedly shrink. Possibly drastically.

    If they pay their employees more money - then they MUST raise prices or lay off people or both.


    Just making a small profit is not the point of running a business.

    Making as much money as you possibly can in a legal/ethical manner is the purpose of running a business.

    It's called greed and it is why free market economies are SO efficient and generate so much money for their citizens.
    No, they don't have to. The stockholders can take a hit or CEO pay could go down. Such are choices. It's not an automatic process, however you make it out to be, much less an automatically defensible one.

    Also, what citizens? Certainly not those working for walmart!

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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    Thanks. I appreciate your honesty.

    Is anyone else as honest as DA6O?
    Sure, me. If you dont have the skills or experience or ambition to EARN a higher wage, it's not my fault.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    Non-rich does not necessarily equal middle class / lower middle class / poverty, upper middle class is still doing ok but not great. Also if you don't have much money you are one illness away from disaster. You might think everything is great until something happens and then you are screwed.

    How 'great' are people entitled to? And I am talking about lower thru upper middle classes.

    People make choices on how they spend their money and still have good lives. Maybe expectations are too high? Consumerism creates alot of false expectations. Paying a mortgage, feeding and clothing the kids and some left over for recreation....what's so awful about that?
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    That is no justification. Two wrongs dont make a right.

    People shouldnt try to LIVE off of a Walmart job if they cant LIVE off a Walmart job. It's not the taxpayer's fault that they developed no skills, didnt move up or move on, didnt move somewhere where there were better jobs or had more obligations than they can pay for.
    I facepalm every time I read this stupid argument. Over half of all jobs in the U.S. are unskilled positions. Do you suggest they all get some skills and move up?

    Who will do those jobs then? Who will pump the gas, sack the groceries, sweep the floor, clean the toilets, stock the shelves?

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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    Also if you don't have much money you are one illness away from disaster. You might think everything is great until something happens and then you are screwed.
    This is totally true and extends all the way up to even upper middle class. Has nothing to do with Walmart wages and I think about it every day (have health insurance but a catastrophic accident or illness and it's all over.)
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    No, they don't have to. The stockholders can take a hit or CEO pay could go down. Such are choices. It's not an automatic process, however you make it out to be, much less an automatically defensible one.

    Also, what citizens? Certainly not those working for walmart!
    If they want to maintain their current level of profits - they have to.

    And if their profits go down, so does their share price...big time.

    If you follow the stock market like I do then you know that if a major corporation misses it's profit projections, the stock usually takes a big hit. Do it continually, and the stock will plummet.

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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob N View Post
    Well it appears that a Cleveland, Ohio Walmart is holding a food drive so that it's employees can have a nice Holiday meal. The sign in the store, accompanied by several plastic bins, reads: "Please donate food items so associates in need can enjoy Thanksgiving dinner."

    Really? Thank goodness those people are employed so those associates don't have to get on food stamps.

    What cracks me up with some people that see nothing wrong with what Walmart is doing would probably go berserk if you wished them "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas."
    Progressives obviously have a war on private sector companies doing anything nice - your hatred blinds you.

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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    I facepalm every time I read this stupid argument. Over half of all jobs in the U.S. are unskilled positions. Do you suggest they all get some skills and move up?

    Who will do those jobs then? Who will pump the gas, sack the groceries, sweep the floor, clean the toilets, stock the shelves?
    Hell yes I do suggest that.

    People can start out in those jobs and then MOVE ON or UP. Or do them as part time to support some other job. Etc etc etc. There are always young people starting out.

    Seriously, are you using that as justification to NOT DEVELOP ANY SKILLS? How dumb & useless do you want our nation to become?
    Last edited by Lursa; 11-24-13 at 04:13 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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