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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Perhaps, like yourself. You want cheap good so why not have your communities pay for it and also allow the employees to take the hit in low wages and lack of benefits. The irony is you are paying out of your pocket for subsidies for those cheap goods.
    You know nothing about me personally - actually, I can't remember the last time I entered a Walmart store let alone purchased "cheap goods" or any goods there. I don't believe Walmart owes me or anyone anything other than to give it's employees a decent and respectful work environment and the wages they agreed to when hired and it's customers a reason to shop there. Nothing more. Walmart is not responsible for the decay in American society and not responsible for correcting the evils of America's ever growing welfare state.
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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    you're talking about Canada; that's entirely different. Walmart "associates" there already have universal health care. The US is an entirely different animal.

    to give you an example, the current Walmart advertising campaign has nothing to do with the products. it's a saturation advertisement about how great it is to work there with fake actor testimonials. it's titled "that's the real Walmart."

    basically, so many people here hate the store that they actually have to do a "come on guys, we're really not corporate demons" commercial. many of us feel that way because a family member or friend has worked there. i was a customer before that.

    like i said, when unions form, it will be well deserved.
    Last time I checked, the UFCW union is an American entity, with afficiates in Canada - the UFCW said nothing about only stopping its unionization drives in Canada - secondly, last time I checked, the NLRB is an American entity with no jurisdication or authority in Canada so my references to them are not related to Canada.

    Finally, as for Walmart's commercials, they are simply trying to put truth out to counter the media and liberal bias against them. If Walmart commercials insult you, you must feel awful about the propaganda pieces the Obama administration offers up.
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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Actually it is not. Walmart takes advantage of the economic conditions and they do it extremely well. They are taking advantage of the reality that there is little place any longer for low skilled and low educated people in good paying factory jobs. They are taking advantage of the reality that those same people are struggling to get by as best they can and even a low paying WM job is better than nothing for many. They are taking advantage of China and other foreign manufacturers who in turn take advantage of their workers who are in an even worse situation and can be thoroughly and utterly exploited. They take advantage of manufacturers by dictating to them all manner of specifications on products or they will not stock them. They take advantage of communities who are eager to get any employer and taxpayer and will do cartwheels and anything else the company wants to get into their communities. They take advantage of government welfare programs and know they can pay employees substandard wages and they can still survive making up the difference in government welfare payments. And that in turn takes advantage of the American taxpayer. They take advantage of the blue collar lower working class consumer who only cares about one thing - immediate price and gives it to them despite those same people are losing the game in the long run.

    Yup - lots of advantages at Wal Mart.
    DAMN Walmart - they should just leave the masses unemployed and unable to afford overpriced, made in America goods.
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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    You know nothing about me personally - actually, I can't remember the last time I entered a Walmart store let alone purchased "cheap goods" or any goods there. I don't believe Walmart owes me or anyone anything other than to give it's employees a decent and respectful work environment and the wages they agreed to when hired and it's customers a reason to shop there. Nothing more. Walmart is not responsible for the decay in American society and not responsible for correcting the evils of America's ever growing welfare state.
    It most certainly CONTRIBUTES to the decline of American society.
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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    DAMN Walmart - they should just leave the masses unemployed and unable to afford overpriced, made in America goods.
    In the long run - that might be better for all as it would force the issues that need forcing instead of just allowing them to be swept under the rug or kicked down the road because they are inconvenient to talk about.

    Of course, the problem of the 21st century is what do you do with tens or millions of people who really cannot function in a technologically based economy where high skills and high education is now necessary to good wages now that the factory and union jobs of the past are going bye bye?

    I always thought it was ironic that Sam Walton used to wax poetically about small town America that he professed to love so much but is the single person responsible for destroying more small town Main Streets and downtowns than any person in American history. He created the monster and it came back to kill what he loved.
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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Actually it is not. Walmart takes advantage of the economic conditions and they do it extremely well. They are taking advantage of the reality that there is little place any longer for low skilled and low educated people in good paying factory jobs. They are taking advantage of the reality that those same people are struggling to get by as best they can and even a low paying WM job is better than nothing for many. They are taking advantage of China and other foreign manufacturers who in turn take advantage of their workers who are in an even worse situation and can be thoroughly and utterly exploited. They take advantage of manufacturers by dictating to them all manner of specifications on products or they will not stock them. They take advantage of communities who are eager to get any employer and taxpayer and will do cartwheels and anything else the company wants to get into their communities. They take advantage of government welfare programs and know they can pay employees substandard wages and they can still survive making up the difference in government welfare payments. And that in turn takes advantage of the American taxpayer. They take advantage of the blue collar lower working class consumer who only cares about one thing - immediate price and gives it to them despite those same people are losing the game in the long run.

    Yup - lots of advantages at Wal Mart.
    How does Wal-Mart differ from any other business? Why has Wal-Mart in particular been singled out for criticism? I noted in a previous post that the union has decided to withdraw their attempt to unionize Wal-Mart, and I wonder why that decision was made?

    Greetings, haymarket.

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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Actually, your source shows no such thing - it does indicate the the NLRB is getting back into the issue after the UFCW withdrew and declared it would no longer attempt to unionize Walmart stores. Perhaps a little birdie in the Obama administration tweeted in their ear.

    Doesn't alter the content of what I posted or the facts behind it.
    Yes, it does alter it because these are the tactics Walmart uses. At any rate, according to this source: Wal-Mart workers in Weyburn, Sask., vote to dump union - Saskatchewan - CBC News

    "After a decertification drive was launched at the store and employees voted on that, the union argued the process was unfair and sought to block the votes from being counted.

    But on Thursday, after the Supreme Court of Canada dismissed the union's application to deal with the case, the way was cleared for the count to be held.

    Supreme Court won't hear union's appeal of Wal-Mart case"

    At that point the UFCW can't proceed.

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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    How does Wal-Mart differ from any other business? Why has Wal-Mart in particular been singled out for criticism? I noted in a previous post that the union has decided to withdraw their attempt to unionize Wal-Mart, and I wonder why that decision was made?

    Greetings, haymarket.
    Probably no difference at all when you come down to it. Every business looks to maximize its advantages and WM is simply the biggest player in the game and has the power and clout to take that maximization of advantage way further than most others.

    I had a friend who sat on a township board and WM came to them and wanted to build a superstore. They told me horror stories of "negotiating" with WM. I use the term "negotiating" loosely because you do not do that as much as bend over the table and hope you get a little KY to make it tolerable.

    And greeting right back to you Polgara.
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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    In the long run - that might be better for all as it would force the issues that need forcing instead of just allowing them to be swept under the rug or kicked down the road because they are inconvenient to talk about.

    Of course, the problem of the 21st century is what do you do with tens or millions of people who really cannot function in a technologically based economy where high skills and high education is now necessary to good wages now that the factory and union jobs of the past are going bye bye?

    I always thought it was ironic that Sam Walton used to wax poetically about small town America that he professed to love so much but is the single person responsible for destroying more small town Main Streets and downtowns than any person in American history. He created the monster and it came back to kill what he loved.
    Weird...wasn't the consumer complicit in this somehow?
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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    You know nothing about me personally - actually, I can't remember the last time I entered a Walmart store let alone purchased "cheap goods" or any goods there. I don't believe Walmart owes me or anyone anything other than to give it's employees a decent and respectful work environment and the wages they agreed to when hired and it's customers a reason to shop there. Nothing more. Walmart is not responsible for the decay in American society and not responsible for correcting the evils of America's ever growing welfare state.
    Touche---you don't know me or any other poster on this forum personally either. Just giving you a taste of your own medicine.

    At any rate, they may not owe you anything but you still have to pay for their bad business model regardless if the workers accept the conditions are not.

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