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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by Commie View Post
    I sometimes wonder if it's just an aspect of how conservatives are authoritarians at heart, and love to worship the powerful, or whether the rumours I read a few years back are actually true that some conservative think tanks go beyond funding favourite right wing bloggers, to actually giving cash rewards to useful drones that parrot their propaganda on forums and news site comment threads!
    I've wondered that myself many times, voting against their own best interests is so bizarre. If you look at the right-wingers on this site though they all complain about how others are mooching off of them. They're either all rich (doubt it) or they are delusional and think their failures can be attributed to welfare moochers. "If it just wasn't for THEM I'd be rich". They're too cowardly to go after those they worship, so they pick on the weakest people in society.

    You can bet there are also significant paid networks that output their propaganda everywhere they can. They own thousands of radio stations across the country where the spew their crap, certainly they do it on the internet as well. There's several people on this forum and many other sites I frequent that I suspect. I wouldn't be surprised if this forum was owned and created as a result of such things as it is setup for it.

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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Nah, I think the majority of them support economic-authoritarian pseudo-libertarians.

    "Such people simply want to get rid of minimum wage laws, worker safety regulations, anti-trust regulations, regulations on pollution, and any other regulations that enforce good business practices, without replacing them with non-governmental libertarian solutions such as property rights and the right of self-defense, such that they can create a situation of de facto dependence-based tyranny to force anything onto workers, customers, and/or the environment. They also want to get rid of income taxes and capital gains taxes, just so that they can keep all of the money that they steal. Such types often support the Unfair Tax, and they often venerate Ayn Rand and her selfishness-is-a-virtue dogma."Pseudo-libertarian - Libertapedia, the libertarian encyclopedia
    I used to call myself a Libertarian until I realized most Libertarians were douchebags who wield their platform as a weapon to terrorize everyone and do the opposite of what they claim. That link sums it up perfectly.

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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    I used to call myself a Libertarian until I realized most Libertarians were douchebags who wield their platform as a weapon to terrorize everyone and do the opposite of what they claim. That link sums it up perfectly.
    Perhaps, it makes them feel better to justify their own economic wellbeing without having to look beyond their own myopic view. My favorites are the ones too stupid to realize that their own viewpoint goes strictly against their interest.

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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    I see nothing wrong with what WalMart is doing.

    They advertise jobs at a legal wage.

    People voluntarily apply (and some are accepted) for those jobs.

    Realizing that many of their employees do not make enough money to have a Christmas dinner, they start a food drive.

    There is nothing remotely illegal or immoral with anything there.

    No one put a gun to their employees heads to work there for those wages, the decision was completely their own...as is there decision to continue to work there.


    WalMart does not owe anyone a living. They are under zero obligation to make sure their wages cover all their employees expenses.

    Their job is to legally make as much money for the shareholders/owners as possible. That is all they ethically need to worry about. And that is all they should worry about. Free enterprise best works when legal greed is allowed to flourish.

    And if people do not like the way they do that, then they can stop shopping there. If enough stop shopping their, Walmart goes out of business.

    But considering Walmart is gigantic and growing, obviously huge numbers do not object to their business model.


    And btw - I could care less what people call Christmas.
    So no problem - let's just raise the minimum wage so that people who are making it and working over 32 hours a week don't qualify for food stamps and can pay for health insurance.

    Problem solved. WalMart can keep paying minimum wage, but we are no longer subsidizing them.

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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    no, i said that walmart was ripe for unionization. that's entirely true, and it's walmart's fault for treating employees like cattle.

    i also said that i'd cheer, which is a fact.

    there is no hyperbole in my initial statement. i did, however, utilize a little hyperbole in this post when i said that they treat their employees like cattle. walmart does not kill and eat its employees, though back in the day, it did take life insurance policies out on them so it could profit from their deaths, so that's sort of similar.

    Well, either you clearly don't know the meaning of the word hyperbole or you're ignorant of the facts.

    Walmart may be "ripe for unionization" in the minds of the nostalgic or those prone to fantasy, but the United Food and Commercial Workers Union, which was defending itself against charges filed by Walmart for unfair labor practices, has indicated it will be withdrawing attempts to unionize Walmart stores.

    Union Pledges to Halt Attempts to Unionize Wal-Mart Employees | News | Tools | XpertHR.com

    In addition, the one Walmart store in Canada that was successfully unionized had its union members vote to decertify the union this past summer.

    Only Walmart Union In Canada Votes To Decertify

    So much for your claims being "entirely true".

    You were likely correct, however, in your claim that you would cheer if Walmart unionized, but that's about as relevant as me saying I'd cheer if I won the next Powerball draw.

    It's never a good idea to claim the high ground and the moral authority when it's so easy to prove your claims are just so worthless. And that's not hyperbole.
    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F. Buckley Jr.

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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    No one is forced to go to Walmart.
    And nobody should go out of their own free will either.
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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Well, either you clearly don't know the meaning of the word hyperbole or you're ignorant of the facts.

    Walmart may be "ripe for unionization" in the minds of the nostalgic or those prone to fantasy, but the United Food and Commercial Workers Union, which was defending itself against charges filed by Walmart for unfair labor practices, has indicated it will be withdrawing attempts to unionize Walmart stores.

    Union Pledges to Halt Attempts to Unionize Wal-Mart Employees | News | Tools | XpertHR.com

    In addition, the one Walmart store in Canada that was successfully unionized had its union members vote to decertify the union this past summer.

    Only Walmart Union In Canada Votes To Decertify

    So much for your claims being "entirely true".

    You were likely correct, however, in your claim that you would cheer if Walmart unionized, but that's about as relevant as me saying I'd cheer if I won the next Powerball draw.

    It's never a good idea to claim the high ground and the moral authority when it's so easy to prove your claims are just so worthless. And that's not hyperbole.
    Walmart uses it's power to get rid of unions. "The National Labor Relations Board said it is prepared to file complaints alleging Wal-Mart Stores Inc. WMT +1.20% violated workers' rights to protest—unless Wal-Mart and the parties settle matters first.

    The general counsel's office of the NLRB said it found merit in some of the charges filed with the agency against Wal-Mart, including allegations that stores in 13 states unlawfully threatened, disciplined or terminated employees for participating in legally protected strikes and protests.

    Wal-Mart stores in three of those 13 states, plus a fourth state, unlawfully threatened, surveilled, disciplined or terminated employees as the stores anticipated or responded to other kinds of legally protected worker activities, the agency said Monday. In addition, during two national television news broadcasts and in statements to employees at Wal-Mart stores in California and Texas, Wal-Mart unlawfully threatened employees with reprisal if they engaged in strikes and protests last Thanksgiving Day, Nov. 22, 2012, the NLRB said." http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/...06412630293566
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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    No, you have that wrong. It was the UFCW that wanted to appeal a labour board decision regarding accusations of unfair labour practices by Walmart, but the high court refused to hear it.
    I provided sources to support my claims - where's yours?
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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    And nobody should go out of their own free will either.
    You have a novel understanding of "free will".
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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    You have a novel understanding of "free will".
    In this case - I have a perfect understanding of it.
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