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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryChinaski View Post
    Walmart isn't the only one. McDonald's is totally skummy too. McDonald's has a “McResource” line that helps employees and their families enroll in various state and local assistance programs. That came out into the open when a recording turned up of the McResource line advocating that full-time employees sign up for food stamps and welfare.
    While nearly 1/3 of the US population now gets SNAP benefits only 4% work at the minimum wage. It appears that you equate employers informing their employees of available federal/state benefits should now be accompanied by a requirement to pay them (or the gov't) more. As I have pointed out, and you continue to ignore, public assistance is based on family size, but wages are based on the work performed.

    While citizen A can be paid $15K/year and not qualify for public assitance, citizen B can be paid $15K/year and qualify for publilc assistance, but that is not the fault of the employer in any way. Under your proposed "fairness" system citizen A can be employed (at minimum wage) without any penalty, yet employing citzen B (at the minimum wage) would incur a penalty. That is insane.
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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Pay your god damn employees wages that don't require the taxpayer to pick up the rest of the tab. Costco does it, Whole foods does it. Trader Joe's does it. Walmart and McDonald's can do it.

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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryChinaski View Post
    Pay your god damn employees wages that don't require the taxpayer to pick up the rest of the tab. Costco does it, Whole foods does it. Trader Joe's does it. Walmart and McDonald's can do it.
    OK, Skippy, let's see how that can be implemented. Citizen A, with no dependents, can be paid less than the minimum wage and not qualify for public assistance, but citizen B, with 8 dependnts must' be paid over twice the minimum wage (for doing the same job?) in order not to qualify for public assistance. Your idea boils down to the requirement to pay an employee $4,020/year more for each dependent that they have - thus you seem to favor a "living wage" system, rather than equal pay for equal work.

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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    You know it used to be that if somebody wasn't making enough at their job they would have a second part time job to cover the rest instead of getting government handouts.

    My how things have changed.

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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    no thanks, i already had my morning dose of hyperbole.
    Apparently not - I simply matched yours.
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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    OK, Skippy, let's see how that can be implemented. Citizen A, with no dependents, can be paid less than the minimum wage and not qualify for public assistance, but citizen B, with 8 dependnts must' be paid over twice the minimum wage (for doing the same job?) in order not to qualify for public assistance. Your idea boils down to the requirement to pay an employee $4,020/year more for each dependent that they have - thus you seem to favor a "living wage" system, rather than equal pay for equal work.

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    Costco values "work" more than Walmart does and their pay reflects that. Despite the sagging economy, Costco pays its hourly workers an average of $20.89 an hour, not including overtime. It treats its employees well in the belief that a happier work environment will result in a more profitable company.
    “I just think people need to make a living wage with health benefits,” “It also puts more money back into the economy and creates a healthier country. It’s really that simple.”
    - Costco CEO Craig Jelinek. I’ts not a socialist plot. He's right, it's good business sense. More disposable income in the economy means more economic activity, means more growth, means more profits in the long run.
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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Apparently not - I simply matched yours.
    no, i said that walmart was ripe for unionization. that's entirely true, and it's walmart's fault for treating employees like cattle.

    i also said that i'd cheer, which is a fact.

    there is no hyperbole in my initial statement. i did, however, utilize a little hyperbole in this post when i said that they treat their employees like cattle. walmart does not kill and eat its employees, though back in the day, it did take life insurance policies out on them so it could profit from their deaths, so that's sort of similar.


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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Food stamps
    Free and reduced lunch
    Medicaid
    Welfare benefits based on state
    corporate subsidies
    I'm too lazy to google the Forbes articles referring to how much the average Super Walmart cost the American tax payer in food stamps, welfare, etc. (thereby subsidizing Walmart's profits), but if I remember correctly it is somewhere just under a $1-Million a year for each store. With thousands of stores, we are talking Billions going to the welfare state. And that's Billions in profit for Walmart.

    Isn't Jerry Brown in court right now suing for the right to fine Walmart if they don't provide health coverage? The average Walmart worker get's like $6000.00 a year in state funded medical care, so he is going to fine them the same . . . or something like that, I am too lazy as i said before, to look it up. Plus, if it is against Walmart, I am jaded . . . I hate them for what they did to the Mom & Pop's (I'm conservative that way). Rumor is good enough for me. Sam Walton would be turning over in his grave if he knew how his store was being run now.

    Logic and reason will not work with me . . . Walmart is evil.

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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryChinaski View Post
    Costco values "work" more than Walmart does and their pay reflects that. Despite the sagging economy, Costco pays its hourly workers an average of $20.89 an hour, not including overtime. It treats its employees well in the belief that a happier work environment will result in a more profitable company. - Costco CEO Craig Jelinek. I’ts not a socialist plot. He's right, it's good business sense. More disposable income in the economy means more economic activity, means more growth, means more profits in the long run.
    With Costco vs. Walmart you are not just comparing different labor rates at "similar" retailers these are different business models entirely. For example Wlamart does not charge an annual membership fee, employs twice as many employees (per square foot of retail space), sells many more products and allows you to buy those products in much smaller quanities than Costco does.

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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    You know it used to be that if somebody wasn't making enough at their job they would have a second part time job to cover the rest instead of getting government handouts.

    My how things have changed.
    Encouraging "the government will take care of you" thinking is not good for one's sense of self worth, IMO. Why exert yourself when you can get money for doing nothing? No wonder obesity is a problem! It can't and won't last forever...our $17 trillion dollar debt will see to that...then what will they do?

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