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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    In the past many business people's behavior was somewhat constrained by the need to remain respected in their community.

    I'm not sure I'm buying this. Take for example ford: his whole plan on paying a high wage was dependent to his ideas on efficiency and came with all manner of draw backs for the workers based on those very same concepts.

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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Prices wouldnt "skyrocket." Wages arent the bulk of such a company's expenditures. Last year, WalMart spend $7.6 billion buying back shares of its own company. That money could have raised the pay of its low-wage workers over $5/hour and not raised prices one penny. McDonald's HQ could eat the cost of paying double minimum wage, not raise prices one penny, and still make billions in profit. (and that's not even counting the profit of the franchise owners) Papa Johns could have provided every employee with a health insurance plan for like twelve cents per pizza. Ask a hundred people if they'd pay twelve cents per pizza knowing it meant the people who made it and the driver all had health insurance. I bet all of them would respond just like me:

    Here's a quarter. Get the deluxe plan.
    Since you so freely want to redistribute the income and wealth of the Walton family, are you also prepared to redistribute your own income and wealth to help the underprivileged employees of Walmart?

    I'm curious - is your political lean "undisclosed" because there doesn't seem to be one far enough to the left to adequately describe your views?
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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Why the hell are profitable, dividend paying firms
    receiving taxpayer subsidies? Why are we footing the bill because McDonalds and Walmart won't pay them proper wages and/or give them more hours. I've a cousin who was laid off from her IT position a few years back and took a job at Walmart because she needed something asap. Her thinking was to work a second job along with Walmart until something in her career field opened. Turned out the second gig was out of the question as they changed her schedule every week. Walmart knows exactly what they're doing.

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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryChinaski View Post
    Why the hell are profitable, dividend paying firms
    receiving taxpayer subsidies?
    Why are we footing the bill because McDonalds and Walmart won't pay them proper wages and/or give them more hours. I've a cousin who was laid off from her IT position a few years back and took a job at Walmart because she needed something asap. Her thinking was to work a second job along with Walmart until something in her career field opened. Turned out the second gig was out of the question as they changed her schedule every week. Walmart knows exactly what they're doing.
    Because the left has decreed that income redistribution is the "fair" way to establish a worker's "true" worth. Far too many assume that Walmart is doing something different than the typical lawn service or cabinet shop. Any business pays what it considers ample to attract and retain qualified workers while still making the desired profit. The federal gov't, on the other hand, prefers to define one's "fair" compensation to be based on their current number of dependents, independent of the market value of their labor - the difference is made up by social program spending (income redistribution).
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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Because the left has decreed that income redistribution is the "fair" way to establish a worker's "true" worth. Far too many assume that Walmart is doing something different than the typical lawn service or cabinet shop. Any business pays what it considers ample to attract and retain qualified workers while still making the desired profit. The federal gov't, on the other hand, prefers to define one's "fair" compensation to be based on their current number of dependents, independent of the market value of their labor - the difference is made up by social program spending (income redistribution).
    Oh save your free market bull****. Walmart's philosophy is get everything for the lowest price, goods and employees. Wal-Mart is the biggest consumer of taxpayer supported aid. They're having their cake and eating it too by taking advantage of their employees and the tax-payer.We should charge back the amount of public assistance any employee receives to the company he or she works for and watch them up their pay and/or increase their hours.

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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Prices wouldnt "skyrocket." Wages arent the bulk of such a company's expenditures. Last year, WalMart spend $7.6 billion buying back shares of its own company. That money could have raised the pay of its low-wage workers over $5/hour and not raised prices one penny. McDonald's HQ could eat the cost of paying double minimum wage, not raise prices one penny, and still make billions in profit. (and that's not even counting the profit of the franchise owners) Papa Johns could have provided every employee with a health insurance plan for like twelve cents per pizza. Ask a hundred people if they'd pay twelve cents per pizza knowing it meant the people who made it and the driver all had health insurance. I bet all of them would respond just like me:

    Here's a quarter. Get the deluxe plan.
    LOL.

    Walmart has 2.1 million employee's worldwide. Their average salary, $20,744. Do the math if capable, what they pay out in wages dwarfs the "$7.6 billion" in stock buybacks you listed.

    Now try it from another angle on your proposal that Walmart disregard sound business practice and suddenly decide give everybody a $5 an hour raise just because you want them to. Just so you will know how to figure the costs take 2.1 million x the average number of hours worked x $5. Now compare that to the "$7.6 billion" you listed. Accurately point out which is larger, and I'll give you a check mark.

    Now that you might be able to really see how much money you are talking about, please explain how they could possible give everyone a $5 an hour wage increase and not raise prices "one penny" and stay in business without massive layoffs.

    Now on to your twelve cents nonsense using myself as an example. I don't call for delivery of pizza very often. Mainly for one reason, I can get them cheaper a walmart and cook them myself saving me a little money. Do you really think adding twelve cents to my cost is going to get me to buy more pizza from them? If you do, rethink things.
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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryChinaski View Post
    Her thinking was to work a second job along with Walmart until something in her career field opened. Turned out the second gig was out of the question as they changed her schedule every week. Walmart knows exactly what they're doing.
    I'm not following. How does it benefit Walmart to prevent their workers from getting a second job by rotating their schedule?

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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    I'm not following. How does it benefit Walmart to prevent their workers from getting a second job by rotating their schedule?
    Their game is to keep their employees dependent on some sort of Government assistance either by not providing enough work hours, pay or a consistent/regular schedule to where one could take a second job thus avoiding the need for foodstamps.
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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryChinaski View Post
    Oh save your free market bull****. Walmart's philosophy is get everything for the lowest price, goods and employees. Wal-Mart is the biggest consumer of taxpayer supported aid. They're having their cake and eating it too by taking advantage of their employees and the tax-payer.We should charge back the amount of public assistance any employee receives to the company he or she works for and watch them up their pay and/or increase their hours.
    Again with the attack on Walmart (alone?) because you assume that they can afford to pay your desired penalty nonsense. How is any other employer, paying the same low wage, not "guilty" of exactly the same "crime"? Why is the person that delivers your newspaper, washes your car, cooks your meal, washes your dishes or mows your lawn not "entitled" to make as much as a Walmart cashier?

    Should the pay/hours of only those workers with dependents be raised? After all, the low wage employees without dependents are not likely able to collect these public assistance benefits so they may freely be paid less, under your "fair" scheme. What you seem to be attempting here is to establish a "living wage" to replace a flat minimum wage - but applying it very selectively (only to big corporations).
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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryChinaski View Post
    Their game is to keep their employees dependent on some sort of Government assistance either by not providing enough work hours, pay or a consistent/regular schedule to where one could take a second job thus avoiding the need for foodstamps.
    again, what would be the benefit of the later? Also, employers skirting around the hourly requirement for full time employment likely has more to do with certain associated costs, as opposed to some Machiavellian plan to keep them on govt subsidies

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