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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

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    Two wrongs dont make a right.

    I dont disagree with your post in general but there is a huge diversity of employment between doctor and burger-flipper/shelf stocker. There's nothing wrong with starting out in unskilled labor/service positions.
    But for anyone except perhaps (only perhaps since I give them a great deal of credit) the physically or mentally challenged, there is NO reason to remain in those positions. Anyone can learn, gain experience, move on or up. And then they leave those unskilled positions open for the next young people, elderly on fixed incomes, people needing part-time jobs to pay for college, medical bills, moms that have to get home when kids get home from school, etc.

    And also, one reason the jobs dont pay well is because almost none of them work 40 hours a week. (Many companies, as well as small businesses and city/state/county agencies use this strategy to limit the benefits they have to pay employees...but it certainly is not limited to big biz)
    I would argue that the burger flipper is an asset to their employer. Without them what do you have? Costco is proof that Walmart has it wrong. Costco's recent quarterly earnings prove that you can pay your employees a real living wage, provide affordable health benefits(which 88% of Costco employees have) and still turn a sizable profit. Walmart pays their employees as if they don't need to eat more than a few times a week. Walmart is a crap company that pays crap money, provides poor service and sells crappy products.

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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    And also, one reason the jobs dont pay well is because almost none of them work 40 hours a week.
    I disagree--at least with the Wal-mart paradigm. If you go back to this post in this thread you will find out that the majority of Wal-mart's associates work full time. (That's 1.3 million, which is a huge chunk of people working full time)

    Then Lundberg led me deep into the company’s website to find where Wal-Mart states its average full-time hourly wage: $12.83. How many employees work full-time? Wal-Mart will only say that it’s the majority.
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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryChinaski View Post
    I would argue that the burger flipper is an asset to their employer. Without them what do you have? Costco is proof that Walmart has it wrong. Costco's recent quarterly earnings prove that you can pay your employees a real living wage, provide affordable health benefits(which 88% of Costco employees have) and still turn a sizable profit. Walmart pays their employees as if they don't need to eat more than a few times a week. Walmart is a crap company that pays crap money, provides poor service and sells crappy products.
    A low skilled worker is an asset if, and only if, they can show up reliably, work as directed with minimal supervision, accept direction/training and become a higher skilled worker. It is at that point that they are given a raise, thus encouraged to stay on; otherwise, what you have is a job opening.

    To assert that they are not paid amply denies that the average wage is 50% above the starting wage. These folks are not asked to perform complex/dangerous tasks, supply their own training or tools - in short, they are the easiest of all workers to replace.
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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob N View Post
    I disagree--at least with the Wal-mart paradigm. If you go back to this post in this thread you will find out that the majority of Wal-mart's associates work full time. (That's 1.3 million, which is a huge chunk of people working full time)

    Is full time 40 hours a week? For some states it's 35 or 32.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryChinaski View Post
    I would argue that the burger flipper is an asset to their employer. Without them what do you have? Costco is proof that Walmart has it wrong. Costco's recent quarterly earnings prove that you can pay your employees a real living wage, provide affordable health benefits(which 88% of Costco employees have) and still turn a sizable profit. Walmart pays their employees as if they don't need to eat more than a few times a week. Walmart is a crap company that pays crap money, provides poor service and sells crappy products.
    I didnt say they werent assets, I referred to them, or at least meant 'unskilled.' Meaning that almost anyone can fill those positions with a minimum of training. Meaning the job pool is huge.

    Also, if people prefer that, then they can choose to work at Costco instead of Walmart. No one is forcing anyone to work anywhere.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

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    Good grief.

    How about they pay them a freaking living wage? This is just ridiculous. Putting money before humanity is the biggest problem in the world.
    As I pointed out earlier, walmart does pay someone a 'living wage" that is fresh from highschool and has no dependents. I'm not sure how much compensation you expect for low-skilled work that anyone who isn't disabled (in some instances this isn't even a requirement) can perform

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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

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    Good grief.

    How about they pay them a freaking living wage? This is just ridiculous. Putting money before humanity is the biggest problem in the world.
    Private enterprise doesn't run on pleas, cries, and requests that run contrary to profit.

    That's what Washington is for.

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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryChinaski View Post
    I would argue that the burger flipper is an asset to their employer. Without them what do you have? Costco is proof that Walmart has it wrong. Costco's recent quarterly earnings prove that you can pay your employees a real living wage, provide affordable health benefits(which 88% of Costco employees have) and still turn a sizable profit. Walmart pays their employees as if they don't need to eat more than a few times a week. Walmart is a crap company that pays crap money, provides poor service and sells crappy products.
    And when demand for unskilled wage-donkeys surpasses supply of unskilled wage-donkeys, you have a point.

    Until then, you don't. Have a nice day.

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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Private enterprise doesn't run on pleas, cries, and requests that run contrary to profit.

    That's what Washington is for.
    Well perhaps they should.

    Anyone who puts money before humanity is a douche.
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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

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    Well perhaps they should.

    Anyone who puts money before humanity is a douche.
    "Should" is not a word in a successful business.

    If you want, there are small communes scattered throughout America that live something close to a Little House on the Prairie lifestyle. There, you can live your life totally happy on the concept of "should".

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