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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    Right! I work for a pretty good company that pays wells and every year we do a food drive and make thanksgiving baskets for other coworkers that may have had a tough year or just need some help. Not one coworker has ever made negative remarks or complained that we should all just get paid some more. They put their can of creamed corn in the box and moves along with their day.

    Also on Christmas we put a tree up and hang up children's gloves, hats, and scarves to distribute. How diabolical of the company to allow that, the big boss should just distribute money so the parents can buy want they want!
    I'm trying to imagine going to my company, saying I've had a tough year, could I get part of the food drive that they held for employees with tough years? I'd feel horrible, even if I had a tough year, knowing I was taking food from fellow employees. How do they decide who gets the extra help? And do employees feel pressured to donate something because the box is sitting right there?

    I think if the store wants to give their employees - all of their employees, not just those who say they had a tough time - a nice holiday, they can give them a cash bonus. Those who don't need it can choose to give it to a charity of their choice. Those who need it will be grateful and not feel singled out.

    Re giving trees - every time I've participated in a company giving tree, we've been told the first name of a kid and what to buy them; we aren't just buying them random things.

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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    The Rachel Maddow Show on msnbc

    I don't have cable and have to watch pundits once the shows are on-line. I'm just now getting around to last night's when I heard the BEST one sentence about this topic to date... It's in the 3rd video at the RMS. A former Walmart employee, current anti-Walmart activist is being interviewed by RM.

    Vanessa Ferreira says, "What do they want these associates to donate with, their food stamps?"
    jallman: "It's all good. At least you have a thick skin and can take being poked fun back at without crying. "

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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    The Rachel Maddow Show on msnbc

    I don't have cable and have to watch pundits once the shows are on-line. I'm just now getting around to last night's when I heard the BEST one sentence about this topic to date... It's in the 3rd video 8:18m at the RMS. A former Walmart employee, current anti-Walmart activist is being interviewed by RM.

    Vanessa Ferreira says, "What do they want these associates to donate with, their food stamps?"
    jallman: "It's all good. At least you have a thick skin and can take being poked fun back at without crying. "

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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Maybe it was set up by one Wal-Mart employee to help out others.
    Don't get us wrong, we don't have anything against food drives or charities if it goes to the needy. Whoever set this up obviously cared for the welfare of those employees. Maybe it was concerned co-workers or maybe management frustrated by company policies. The point is that it revealed a truth about the company and our times that is difficult to ignore, that the new normal is that the needy may be fully employed and still be needy.
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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    Anyone who walks into a Wal-Mart, knowing what they are, is so self centered and greedy I doubt they are even remotely willing to help someone else unless there is a tax break in it for them.
    This could possibly be the most uniformed, ignorant statement I've ever seen on these boards.
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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Greetingss, JC.

    Ironically, yesterday I heard someone make the grumbling statement "yeah, but it doesn't do much for me, does it?," when talking about Dairy Queen raising their prices recently due to the cost of increases in milk and other dairy products. Human nature can be counted on to look out for number one where money is concerned, I guess.
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    And that's how it should be, in my view - Walmart's business is to make money from retail sales. To profit, they must find the lowest cost goods to be competitive and they must pay the going rate for employees in the areas they locate. If they'd done otherwise, they wouldn't be the successful business they are today.
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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by Commie View Post
    Seems like this thread went off topic before I got a chance to address the issue! So, I'll just say that a lot of the comments underline my main frustration with conservative and libertarian drones - the complete reluctance to criticize corporations, billionaires because of adherence to the holy faith of free market fundamentalism! This reminds me of how, back during the banking meltdown a few years ago, when the bankers went to the Government for bailouts to cover their bets on derivatives markets, the tea baggers and tea party activists channeled all of their rage at Obama, the Obama Administration, and the unfortunate late entries into the overinflated real estate markets, many of whom bought liar loans that shouldn't have even been legal in the first place. But, you would have to look long and hard to find any conservative or any libertarian criticize AIG Insurance, Goldmann-Sachs, or the other investment banks. The Republicans claimed that bad banks should be allowed to fail, but they conveniently dropped the subject and approved Bush's bailout once Lehman Bros. went down! But, up and down right wing opinion, there is no one to be found who criticizes corporate power or who even advances the notion that...maybe these guys are too powerful and need to be reigned in a bit!

    In the Walmart example, conservatives seem to think it's fine and dandy for the family that still has most of the shares to be sitting on a pile of cash greater in size than the net worth of the poorest half of the U.S. population! There's no criticism of Walmart for paying employees so poorly that they can qualify for relief benefits like food stamps...instead the answer is to cut off food stamps!

    Instead of Walmart asking for donations for their poorly payed employees from other poorly payed employees, how about the State says to Walmart:' no need for your charitable efforts, we're raising the minimum wage to $15.00 per hour, so you're going to have to cut into the vast treasure of wealth you have amassed through your outsourcing and low wage policies over the years.' Of course no state, local or national government is going to do it right now, because the vast majority of Democratic and Republican politicians are on the take! And are either taking money now from their corporate sponsors, or are expecting generous rewards for their services on behalf of their corporate masters after they retire from political office...heck, some are in and out of government and private business, like banks and oil companies so they can keep changing laws and regulations on behalf of their real constituents: the bankers and oil company executives. And Walmart has a piece of that action as well, like almost every other corporation.
    Far right thinks that way , their is moderate and being in the middle . Quite unfortunately your ideas just do not pan out . Lets say the minnum wage is increased their are a vast amount of possibilities that would not benefit but most likely worsen the situation . How would it help any way if people are making more money ( even if it doesn't fail before that point ) prices would just sky rocket again since if your making 15 dollar's an hour for a job that requires no thought than what should people who do something more meaningful than restocking shelves and checking out food . ( even if that was a overstatement prices will still inflate and will certainly be more ridiculous then today ) like for example when you would make 9 dollars a week and things cost a nickel when people made more money so did the prices .My tiff with your the corporation statement is that most corporations did not start that way and without human nature and our own desire for cheaper products would not be the way they are today . Like McDonald they were a mom and pop and now they are a corporation . I put in a earlier post that the purpose of making a store is for profit and making money why should we all be looking at them as if all problems would be solved if they gave more . The other things about oil and banks we were the people who put them in power and when it comes to money people get cold . I do agree people should be wary corporations getting to large but society as a whole should be writing them off and have a social justice streak in which the companies get boycotted , but by the peoples hand and not the government . Many things that sound good on paper work terrible in real life since it negates the nature of the beast . ( by beast I means human and our own tendencies and nature )

    Other issues need to be solved before this is even considered plausible . Outsourcing is one of them that needs to be solved which is whole other issue entirely . You cant tackle part of them problem especially when you have another part that comes before it ( yes as said before out sourcing ) .
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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    the last refuge of the simpleton...invoke Rush Limbaugh. Hey...maybe throw in a "Fox News" in there for good measure!

    You are seriously dishonest or seriously uninformed. Your knowledge of community economics is just...nonexistent. Your pretense that small businesses in ANY given community employ more people than a WalMart is equally silly. Your lack of knowledge about the co-occurring economic factors should be embarrassing. Sadly, you will...soldier on...dont worry...merely a flesh wound. You've 'ad worse.
    I do have to admit that I didn't think you were capable of understanding any of the concepts I mentioned,and you sure didn't disappoint in that regard.


    Here is a little something for those who can.

    http://advocate.nyc.gov/files/Walmart.pdf
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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by Commie View Post
    Seems like this thread went off topic before I got a chance to address the issue! So, I'll just say that a lot of the comments underline my main frustration with conservative and libertarian drones - the complete reluctance to criticize corporations, billionaires because of adherence to the holy faith of free market fundamentalism! This reminds me of how, back during the banking meltdown a few years ago, when the bankers went to the Government for bailouts to cover their bets on derivatives markets, the tea baggers and tea party activists channeled all of their rage at Obama, the Obama Administration, and the unfortunate late entries into the overinflated real estate markets, many of whom bought liar loans that shouldn't have even been legal in the first place. But, you would have to look long and hard to find any conservative or any libertarian criticize AIG Insurance, Goldmann-Sachs, or the other investment banks. The Republicans claimed that bad banks should be allowed to fail, but they conveniently dropped the subject and approved Bush's bailout once Lehman Bros. went down! But, up and down right wing opinion, there is no one to be found who criticizes corporate power or who even advances the notion that...maybe these guys are too powerful and need to be reigned in a bit!

    In the Walmart example, conservatives seem to think it's fine and dandy for the family that still has most of the shares to be sitting on a pile of cash greater in size than the net worth of the poorest half of the U.S. population! There's no criticism of Walmart for paying employees so poorly that they can qualify for relief benefits like food stamps...instead the answer is to cut off food stamps!

    Instead of Walmart asking for donations for their poorly payed employees from other poorly payed employees, how about the State says to Walmart:' no need for your charitable efforts, we're raising the minimum wage to $15.00 per hour, so you're going to have to cut into the vast treasure of wealth you have amassed through your outsourcing and low wage policies over the years.' Of course no state, local or national government is going to do it right now, because the vast majority of Democratic and Republican politicians are on the take! And are either taking money now from their corporate sponsors, or are expecting generous rewards for their services on behalf of their corporate masters after they retire from political office...heck, some are in and out of government and private business, like banks and oil companies so they can keep changing laws and regulations on behalf of their real constituents: the bankers and oil company executives. And Walmart has a piece of that action as well, like almost every other corporation.
    Sorry, but you've got at least three things wrong:

    1. You assume that conservatives, at least those who believe in free enterprise, have anything to be critical of when discussing Walmart's business practices and the "billionaires" who own them. The Waltons built a business legally - made it wildly profitable - employ 2.2 million people along the way - and donate to charities of their own choosing. They had sales of $466 billion in 11,000 locations, about $42 million in sales for each store - so, clearly, even though you and others think they are evil incarnate, they are actually serving a pretty significant need in the places they locate. Would you rather they were like Solyndra - no sales and $500 million in government grants burnt up in the hot sun?

    2. You assume that Walmart isn't paying people $15 hour. From what the OP provides, the average wage at Walmart for full time employees is just under $13 hour. That tells me that lots of people are making $15 hour and many are making much more. Depending on how long they've been working there and whether they've advanced to higher paying positions.

    3. You have no concept of business and how business runs if you think that the heirs to the Walmart fortune and business pump their own personal funds into the business to provide salary increases or any other benefits. The people who run the business, hands on, make business decisions about cost inputs and how any increases will affect the bottom line, up or down. I suppose you think Bill and Melinda Gates should have taken their $50 billion and funnelled it back into higher salaries and benefits for the people who work at Microsoft.

    If you stick with socialism, my friend, you're going to have a lifetime of envy and disappointment ahead of you. People with any initiative or sense of self-worth want to be the next founder of the next Walmart or Microsoft, not the next $20 hour low level employee working for them.
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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by Commie View Post
    Seems like this thread went off topic before I got a chance to address the issue! So, I'll just say that a lot of the comments underline my main frustration with conservative and libertarian drones - the complete reluctance to criticize corporations, billionaires because of adherence to the holy faith of free market fundamentalism! .
    You can thank Reagan for that. He implemented the plan perfectly by eliminating the fairness doctrine while undermining unions. With the resulting ability of enormous corporations to control the message through the airwaves and the lessening of the effect of union organizers,they were able to turn enough of the poorly educated white labor base into their ideological foot soldiers.

    I miss the days when republicans were all about small business, myself. Most of the people here are too young to remember those days, though, as most have grown up in the post Reagan world.
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