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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    What ever ignorance you have to dictate to yourself to continue such hatefulness.... Livable wage is subjective yes, but easily understood, and reasonably easily computed for most of the USA. Bless your heart.
    What you call hatefulness, I call simple economic fact.

    And no, it's not "easily computed" because it's not computed. It's not based on any sort of statistical measure, mathematics, or anything of the like. It's determined by have-nots to decipher what creature comforts they feel are "owed" by others (government, the "rich", etc.).

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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob N View Post
    It was a simple analogy.
    So was mine....
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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by BasicGreatGuy View Post
    I have no problem with what Walmart is doing here. Some employees don't work full time or can't work full time. Some employees have outside circumstances they may be dealing with, that puts a burden on them financially. There are a plethora of possibilities at play here.

    I would much rather it be administered in this manner, versus at the government perceived entitlement level.
    Go back to this post in this thread. The vast majority of workers at Walmart is full time--at least according to their spokesman ( Kory Lundberg).
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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    It isn't hatefulness at all. It's reality. A livable wage for me is not a livable wage for someone else.
    Of course not, you're a woman and are predetermined to need and be worthy of only ... what is it 76% of what a man makes doing the exact same job, even though you're more likely to be a single parent than a man.
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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So was mine....
    OK.
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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    It's called privatizing profits and socializing costs.
    Socializing costs? Wal-mart? WHAT?

    Walmart is a limited example of perfect competition, along with minor elements of monopolistic competition. They carry no specialized products. There are no items that you get at Wal-mart that you couldn't easily get somewhere else around town or down the road. They don't dictate costs. The market does. They are successful at what they do because they offer a convenient one-stop feel with low prices (artificially kept just below market by corporate subsidies - which I am against, but not to some absurd level). Wal-mart is nothing but a middleman.

    You cannot socialize costs for products that are considered elastic. They are price-independent and are only adjusted based upon effects in supply.

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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Of course not, you're a woman and are predetermined to need and be worthy of only ... what is it 76% of what a man makes doing the exact same job, even though you're more likely to be a single parent than a man.
    Words cannot accurately portray how hard I'm laughing right now.

    You've lost. You'd do yourself a favor by slinking back into the shadows and licking your wounds for another day.

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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Words cannot accurately portray how hard I'm laughing right now.

    You've lost. You'd do yourself a favor by slinking back into the shadows and licking your wounds for another day.
    Why are you stalking my posts? Have I become the most recent thing for you to embarrass yourself over?
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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Why are you stalking my posts? Have I become the most recent thing for you to embarrass yourself over?
    You think I should be embarrassed?

    First of all, you were pretty much put into a corner by fighting economic principle what self-perceived visions of "fair" - introducing a subjective term like "livable wage" (when there is no such thing, strictly speaking). Then you decided to play red herring by thrusting gender wage discrepancy into the fold - which is also incorrect.

    The most basic way to look at differences in pay between the genders is to look at the median wages of men and women. However, this comparison is of limited usefulness because men and women exhibit very different characteristics for many of the factors that affect pay. For example, men tend to choose fields with higher average pay, and tend to work more hours per week. Because of these differences in order to determine what effect discrimination has upon the wages of men and women in the workplace the differences in career choices must be accounted for. The raw median wages of men and women are often used in misleading ways to inform public policy, without explaining the reasons behind the gap.[4]

    A study commissioned by the United States Department of Labor, concluded that "There are observable differences in the attributes of men and women that account for most of the wage gap. Statistical analysis that includes those variables has produced results that collectively account for between 65.1 and 76.4 percent of a raw gender wage gap of 20.4 percent, and thereby leave an adjusted gender wage gap that is between 4.8 and 7.1 percent."[4] The study also concluded that while in principal more of the wage gap could be explained by differences between the groups, the data that would be needed to account for additional factors were not available.

    While the conclusions of the study commissioned by the United States Department of Labor regarding the adjusted wage gap are generally in agreement with other research,[7] there is disagreement on what factors explain the remaining 5–7%. Some studies assert that the remaining gap is due to discrimination,[8][7] while some others, such as the Department of Labor study above conclude otherwise. Many researchers[8][7] also believe that the differences between the choices men and women make are actually a result of discrimination or social pressures, with women being discouraged from high paying fields, and men being discouraged from making choices such as prioritizing job satisfaction over pay.

    It is, however, impossible to attribute the disparity to gender alone. Things like seniority, education, overtime, sick days, and how often raises are asked for all impact the statistic. Even height[9] and which hand is dominant[10] correlate with earning power.
    Gender pay gap - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    What's next - you going to bring up abortion as a basis to slam Wal-mart?

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    Re: Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees

    CHARRITY!!? Surely they are the world's greatest monsters.
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