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George Zimmerman Arrested Again In Central Florida [W:351]

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Excon said:
Still trying to push the story that you are right huh?
Too bad you weren't.
You will get over it eventually.
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Your opinion does not make the facts any less factual. I apologize for making you feel angry though.
 
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funny how they defended him by saying that he should have been arrested.... :laughat:
 
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opendebate said:
I can understand that point. Can you tell me why, in your opinion, it would be key to consider drug type?
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because different drugs are popular among different cultures and ethnicities. Again, the example of meth, which is heavily associated with whites, both in distribution and use
 
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sangha said:
This is the sort of denialist nonsense we often see from the right.
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I'm not sure you can quote me pointing out elements of blind denial then accuse me of just denying something ...



On the left, many problems experienced by blacks are widely recognized as being caused by poverty. While racism is often cited as a cause of poverty, it is rarely cited as the sole cause of poverty as the existence of white poor people clearly demonstrates that racism is not the only cause
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We were not talking about poverty, nor did I make any claim, direct or indirect, about poverty: learn to follow the discussion
 
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Dr. Chuckles said:
I'm not sure you can quote me pointing out elements of blind denial then accuse me of just denying something ...
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I just did

We were not talking about poverty, nor did I make any claim, direct or indirect, about poverty: learn to follow the discussion
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No you didn't mention poverty. That was your denialism. You denied that the left often recognizes poverty as one of the causes of problems that some blacks experience

While the right certainly has a denial aspect to it when we consider all things african american, the left often assumes all imbalances can be explained away by current appeals to systemic racism.
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sangha said:
I just did
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Yes, I know you did... My point was that that doesn't amount to it making any form of coherent sense



No you didn't mention poverty. That was your denialism. You denied that the left often recognizes poverty as one of the causes of problems that some blacks experience
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uhh, as I just pointed out, the comment was in no way about poverty. That is obvious from the "context".
 
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Dr. Chuckles said:
I think there are certainly elements of racism involved, if on no other level than "legacy" aspects of past systemic policies like current poverty rates, but I often fnd that the general issue is often claimed to be overly dependent, when we look at alternative explanations. Not sure how that addresses your previous claim, though and the fact it was obviously based on a faulty assumption

While the right certainly has a denial aspect to it when we consider all things african american, the left often assumes all imbalances can be explained away by current appeals to systemic racism. Which I find just as silly, especially when this is based on a glaring lack of actual supporting data or unwillingness to look at alternative hypothesis.

basically, both sides completely oversimplify the issue

I'm not sure just repeating your earlier assertion, without any attempt to establish it as a fact, adds much value here

Really has nothing to do with what we are discussing
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:0) You continue to make my point. I celebrate the denial and defend your right to it.
 
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BlackAsCoal said:
:0) You continue to make my point. I celebrate the denial and defend your right to it.
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actually you writing some trite platitude hardly demonstrates anything, nor does it constitute an argument
 
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Dr. Chuckles said:
Yes, I know you did... My point was that that doesn't amount to it making any form of coherent sense
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That's just more denialism from you

uhh, as I just pointed out, the comment was in no way about poverty. That is obvious from the "context".
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Sure it was. It was an implicit denial that the left doesn't often attribute the problems black people have to poverty
 
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Dr. Chuckles said:
actually you writing some trite platitude hardly demonstrates anything, nor does it constitute an argument
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:0) You still don't get it. I CELEBRATE the differences.

The impetus for real movement and change needs people who think like you do. It absolutely requires it.

Anyone not on the right who is thinking about not going to the polls the coming midterms should listen to people like you.
 
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opendebate said:
But the intent of the study if not to determine if the use of any particular drug is more common among blacks or whites. The intent of the study is to determine if "drug use" is more prevalent with one group more then another.


Either way, from the article:

The study, which was published Monday in the Archives of General Psychiatry, controlled for variables like socioeconomic status because rates of severe drug problems tend to be greater amongst the poor

Read more: Study: Whites More Likely to Abuse Drugs Than Blacks | TIME.com Study: Whites More Likely to Abuse Drugs Than Blacks | TIME.com
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If the study uses cocaine as the singular measurement, any half-brain (let's say, undergrad or smart kid) can see the socioeconomic ignorance relegating the "study" to child level cognitive capacity.

1. Whites are more likely to use cocaine. =
2. Whites are more likely to use drugs.

How does that qualify as basic reasoning, even logic? Idiocy.
 
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Hatuey said:
Your opinion does not make the facts any less factual. I apologize for making you feel angry though.
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More untruths by you, go figure.
As we already know you are the only one between us showing any anger, so you obviously know you are making a false apology as well.
 
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BlackAsCoal said:
With all due respect brother, the racism of the so-called war on drugs is glaringly obvious .. but this speaks of a deeper point. It speaks to the insurmountable chasm between African-Americans and the right.

The meme is that blacks vote for democrats because we are programmed to .. but why would we want to vote for/politically associate with those who can't even see the racism in the war on drugs?

I'm not a democrat, but I understand why many believe there is only one choice to make.
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So I guess when a black person gets caught with drugs, the system should give them a pass because of the color of their skin eh? Or else people like you will label it racism right? Bull!
 
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George Zimmerman denied me a spit courtesy.
 
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Verax said:
EVERYONE
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IS
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FRAMING
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TEH
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ZIMM
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Who implied that? Accusations arent facts..... if they are, then obama is actually osama bin laden with a shave.
 
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I keep wondering if the mods will have to re-form the Zimmerman trial forum, if he goes to trial for ANOTHER action.
 
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Phil_Osophy said:
Who implied that? Accusations arent facts..... if they are, then obama is actually osama bin laden with a shave.
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You implied it when you said it was an accusation. If the accusation is not true then that means that person is framing Zimmerman for something he did not do.

Frameup - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A frame-up (frameup) or setup is an American term referring to the act of framing someone, that is, providing false evidence or false testimony in order to falsely prove someone guilty of a crime.[1]
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Do you also think its just a terrible coincidence this guy keeps being "accused" of things?

George Zimmerman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Beyond the 2012 Martin shooting, Zimmerman has had other encounters with the law, including two incidents in 2005, and five incidents in 2013.[26]
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I mean seriously, who the **** is still giving this guy the benefit of the doubt? The guy barricaded himself inside his gf's house after the altercation. Does he not sound like a nut ready to pop?
 
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I'll bet his next charge will be weapons related being that the judge told him not to have any I think between now and his court appearence which I think is in January. Bet he can't handle being without his binky that long.
 
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Verax said:
You implied it when you said it was an accusation. If the accusation is not true then that means that person is framing Zimmerman for something he did not do.

Frameup - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Do you also think its just a terrible coincidence this guy keeps being "accused" of things?

George Zimmerman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



I mean seriously, who the **** is still giving this guy the benefit of the doubt? The guy barricaded himself inside his gf's house after the altercation. Does he not sound like a nut ready to pop?
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An accusation is an accusation. Nothing more. Zimmerman is definitely a moron. And im not giving him the benefit of the doubt.
 
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poweRob said:
Don't know if this has made into anywhere into this 74 page thread but...


What a great guy.
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And?
Do you know if the image is innocuous or not?
Do you even know if the accusation is true?


poweRob said:
I'll bet his next charge will be weapons related being that the judge told him not to have any I think between now and his court appearence which I think is in January. Bet he can't handle being without his binky that long.
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Really?
How long dd he go without after being charged after justly killing Trayvon?
 
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Excon said:
And?
Do you know if the image is innocuous or not?
Do you even know if the accusation is true?


Really?
How long dd he go without after being charged after justly killing Trayvon?
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I have absolutely no problem with you hanging your hat on this guy.
 
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