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George Zimmerman Arrested Again In Central Florida [W:351]

Re: George Zimmerman Arrested Again In Central Florida

BlackAsCoal said:
:0) You .. a defender of Martin? :0) Sure you are.

Tragedy as an impetus for change .. I'm sure you've never heard of it. But unbeknownst to you, the murder of Emmitt Till inspired the Civil Rights Movement .. which you obviously know nothing about.

I have no idea why you keep posting this BS to me.
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No BS.

Click on my name and see for yourself .

As for Emmett Till....I don't give a **** what happen nearly 60 years ago. It has no barring on whether Martin had a right or not to stand his ground. In which I think he did, because if was clearly he was the one being persuade....in the dark by some nut case wannabe cop out looking to notch his newly gotten weapon.

So I don't care what you believe me or not. It isn't about race.....it is about whether a man has the right to defend himself no matter where he is at.

Like I said, the proof is in my posting history.

What do you got?

Except living in the past.
 
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BlackAsCoal said:
I love it when the right attempts to contort obvious truths into the silly. :0) I'm trying to figure out how to do this without breaking any rules, :0) but talking to conservatives is a lot of damn fun.

I'm a "race-baiter" because I have the temerity to bring up Emmitt Till. That's funny .. and real telling.

You skipped right over the point .. tragedy as impetus for change .. and you ran right for what surely be intelligently categorized as silly.

There is just too much fun to be had with this post :0) but I'm cool with just demonstrating how you evaded a serious conversation.
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I don't think you're in position to accuse the right of any silliness.

As for race baiting.....posts stand testimonial to true intentions of said poster.
 
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Dr. Chuckles said:
While unfortunate, I'm not sure the TM case can be rightfully described as a tragedy. And the fact that it lacks any real racial elements, beyond those that have been slapped onto it, make it a rather weak case to fight for social change on. In fact, what social lesson one is to even take away from the entire thing remains a complete mystery to most, even those seemingly "fighting" for it
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If anything this case is more about two laws, the right to self defense and right to stand your ground clashed.
 
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OscarB63 said:
I have yet to see any evidence that Emmitt Till had asthma or that if he did that it caused him to whistle. The only thing I have ever seen is claims by his mother that he sometimes whistled to cover or cope with a speach impediment.

In any event, he was not murdered for simply whistling.
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I have no dog in this fight....just commenting that as a critical care nurse specializing in pulmonary issues, the description of whistling is not uncommon. Mind you not Mayberry RFD type whistling...but whistling nonetheless.
 
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Oh, you mean wheeze?
BlackAsCoal said:
:0) amazing

THAT'S THE POINT.

They claimed that Till whistled at a white woman .. when in fact, he had asthma which caused him to whistle.
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mak2 said:
Oh, you mean wheeze?
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exactly. no way that an asthma wheeze could be mistaken for a wolf-whistle.
 
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Ikinda walked into the middle of this coversation, but could you be talking about stridor? Stridor sounds like a whistle.
OscarB63 said:
exactly. no way that an asthma wheeze could be mistaken for a wolf-whistle.
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BlackAsCoal said:
Report: George Zimmerman May Have to Face Molestation Charges
Jul 15, 2013

A woman allegedly related to George Zimmerman and his family told investigators that members of Zimmerman’s family were boastfully proud racists and that Zimmerman sexually molested her for several years.

“It started when I was six,” the woman told investigators in 2012. “We’d all lay in front of the TV and we had pillows and blankets and he would reach under the blankets and try to do things and I would try to push him off but he was bigger and stronger and older,” the woman said, audibly weeping in the Florida State Attorney’s Office interview recording released Monday. “It was in front of everybody and I don’t know how I didn’t say anything, I just didn’t know any better.”

A number of news sources have reported that the woman is a relative of the Zimmerman family, though her exact relationship to Zimmerman was redacted from the interview recording. Zimmerman’s legal team, in a statement released in 2011, identified the woman as a cousin.

“We’ve known about this since the beginning but out of respect to her privacy, her emotional state, we haven’t said anything,” Natalie Jackson, an attorney for the family of victim Trayvon Martin, told The Huffington Post.
Report: George Zimmerman May Have to Face Molestation Charges | News 92 FM
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Utter nonsense.
The article makes no connection with the information that was available well over a year ago and possible investigation of such.
The prosecution knew it before the trial and no charges have been filed.

You are peddling nonsense.




Sheik Yerbuti said:
Despite all his stupid reasons, he won't take the bet because he knows the odds are pretty good that Zimmerman will get arrested again by the end of next year. I don't blame him though -- I wouldn't touch that bet either.
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:doh iLOL
Yerbuti is playing mind reader again. D'oh! :doh




Hatuey said:
You being angry because it was said doesn't mean much.
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Angry?
What a joke.
There is no anger on my end.
But there may be some on your end for being called out on posting inflammatory words. :shrug:


Hatuey said:
Of course they defended him.
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Of course they didn't.
But since you are going to say they did, prove it.
 
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mak2 said:
Ikinda walked into the middle of this coversation, but could you be talking about stridor? Stridor sounds like a whistle.
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blackascoal tried to claim that Emmitt Till was murdered because he had asthma and that's what made it appear that he wolf-whistled at Bryant's wife.
 
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OscarB63 said:
FL Statute 776.041, para 2a. I have quoted and linked it dozens of times in multiple threads
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You weren't the only one.



OscarB63 said:
Oh I get it. you are just throwing out random **** and hoping some of it sticks.
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Sharon?
 
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Excon said:
Utter nonsense.
The article makes no connection with the information that was available well over a year ago and possible investigation of such.
The prosecution knew it before the trial and no charges have been filed.

You are peddling nonsense.
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of course she is. even if the allegations were true, given the age difference and the age of both parties at the time of the alleged incidents, the statute of limitations on any crimes Zimmerman could have been charged with have expired. At most he could have been charged as a juvenile with sexual misconduct.
 
mak2 said:
The examples several posted during the endless Zimmerman threads did not inculde the reasonalbe verbage. Since you did not include a link, are these quotes from the Florida law?
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:doh
Google search.
Code: 
776.041 reasonable site:http://www.debatepolitics.com/zimmerman-martin-case/

About 143 results​
 
Look up the thread, I googled it. thanks
Excon said:
:doh
Google search.
Code: 
776.041 reasonable site:http://www.debatepolitics.com/zimmerman-martin-case/

About 143 results​
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mak2 said:
Look up the thread, I googled it. thanks
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Apparently you didn't understand what you read. Figures.
:doh
You said that verbiage wasn't in the threads.
I provided a search string that I used in Google which returns it around 143 times. Meaning it was brought up in discussion here around 143 times. Caprice now?




Let me make it even easier for you.

Let me google that for you
 
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I am just thankful you are here.
mak2 said:
Thanks.


776.041 Use of force by aggressor.—The justification described in the preceding sections of this chapter is not available to a person who:
(1) Is attempting to commit, committing, or escaping after the commission of, a forcible felony; or

(2) Initially provokes the use of force against himself or herself, unless:
(a) Such force is so great that the person reasonably believes that he or she is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm and that he or she has exhausted every reasonable means to escape such danger other than the use of force which is likely to cause death or great bodily harm to the assailant; or

(b) In good faith, the person withdraws from physical contact with the assailant and indicates clearly to the assailant that he or she desires to withdraw and terminate the use of force, but the assailant continues or resumes the use of force.

History.—s. 13, ch. 74-383; s. 1190, ch. 97-102.
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Excon said:
:doh
Google search.
Code: 
776.041 reasonable site:http://www.debatepolitics.com/zimmerman-martin-case/

About 143 results​
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mak2 said:
Look up the thread, I googled it. thanks
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Excon said:
Apparently you didn't understand what you read. Figures.
:doh
You said that verbiage wasn't in the threads.
I provided a search string that I used in Google which returns it around 143 times. Meaning it was brought up in discussion here around 143 times. Caprice now?




Let me make it even easier for you.

Let me google that for you
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BlackAsCoal said:
Point being, irrespective of how you view Till or his murder, history has already written that story .. and it's already written the story of how his murder became the impetus for the greatest social change in American history.
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What does the emmitt Till case have to do with my previous comments?

AS for the Martin case .. it just keeps making the point.
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People continually trying to lob racial issues on it, that really have no connection to it, doesn't make any meaningful point.
 
mak2 said:
I am just thankful you are here.
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Clearly you are not paying attention.
What you Googled and quoted has nothing to do with you saying the following.

mak2 said:
The examples several posted during the endless Zimmerman threads did not inculde the reasonalbe verbage. Since you did not include a link, are these quotes from the Florida law?
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Do you not understand what you said?
You said when it was discussed the reasonable verbiage was not included in the examples.
I proved you wrong by the Google search.
Do you now capice?
It was included so many times, that it makes your claim look totally absurd.
 
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Barbarian said:
If anything this case is more about two laws, the right to self defense and right to stand your ground clashed.
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I always saw it being about what happens when two ****heads meet.
 
Yea, I made a mistake. Why dont you make a new thread about it?
Excon said:
Clearly you are not paying attention.
What you Googled and quoted has nothing to do with you saying the following.

Do you not understand what you said?
You said when it was discussed the reasonable verbiage was not included in the examples.
I proved you wrong by the Google search.
Do you now capice?
It was included so many times, that it makes your claim look totally absurd.
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mak2 said:
Yea, I made a mistake. Why dont you make a new thread about it?
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Mistake. Fair enough.
It wouldn't have gone this far had you payed attention to what you were responding.
 
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Dr. Chuckles said:
What does the emmitt Till case have to do with my previous comments?



People continually trying to lob racial issues on it, that really have no connection to it, doesn't make any meaningful point.
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You're entitled to your opinion .. as I am mine. I make no attempt to change your mind about anything you believe. I'm voicing my perspective, my action, and what I see happening.

From my perspective and the perspective of a great many, the Martin case is racist, the application of 'stand your ground' is racist, and the vast majority of those who support both are republican. It is not required that you agree with any of that. What is important is those who do believe it have the right to lawfully act upon it. Your participation is not required.

You have a right to believe whatever you want.
 
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Barbarian said:
If anything this case is more about two laws, the right to self defense and right to stand your ground clashed.
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The evidence is that Trayvon returned to confront Zimmerman and attacked. That is not standing your ground.
 
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BlackAsCoal said:
From my perspective and the perspective of a great many, the Martin case is racist,
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Only because you choose to look at it from that perspective.
But not only that, but that perspective can be shown to be wrong by the evidence.
 
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Excon said:
Angry?
What a joke.
There is no anger on my end.
But there may be some on your end for being called out on posting inflammatory words. :shrug:
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If you find the comments inflammatory, then you are indeed angry. Here's the definition of the word:

inflammatory
ɪnˈflamət(ə)ri/
adjective
adjective: inflammatory

1.
relating to or causing inflammation of a part of the body.
"inflammatory cells"
synonyms: causing inflammation, causing swelling; More
irritant;
technicalerythrogenic
"an inflammatory lung condition"
2.
(especially of speech or writing) arousing or intended to arouse angry or violent feelings.
"inflammatory remarks"
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Inflammatory - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

in·flam·ma·to·ry
adjective \in-ˈfla-mə-ˌtȯr-ē\

medical : causing or having inflammation

: causing anger
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Now, I'm sure my comments didn't cause a physical inflammation in you. So they did in fact, cause anger - still it does nothing to avoid the fact that my question is a simple one and one you can't answer. Feign all the outrage you want.
 
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