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    Re: George Zimmerman Arrested Again In Central Florida [W:351]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    No sir, and this has been gone over, and over, and over many, many times, and even adjudicated in a court of law, where Z was found not guilty.
    And again, I agree with the jury's decision. That is the ruling of the jury and I'm fine with and agree that the state failed to prove it's case.


    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    But it is clear, that all Martin had to do was go home to where dad was staying, he had lost Z.
    In hind sight, yes. However Martin didn't "have" to do that, he was just as justified under Florida Law to Stand His Ground and not have to run away from the man chasing him across the housing development.


    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    And Z should have not gotten out of his truck to look for M. But, BOTH of them had a legal right to be where they were, Z lived there as well.
    Agreed.


    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    But once, M decided to confront Z then you switch the roles of whom is aggressor in that situation.
    There is no independent evidence that "M decided to confront Z". The only indication of that is - you guessed it - the shooters word.


    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    A witness testified that M was on top in the fight,...
    I worked Military Police for awhile as part of a squadron support rotation and Shore Patrol in many ports in the WESTPAC, here is a little something to share with you - just because a person is loosing a fight doesn't mean the other person started the fight. Someone that starts a fight will often get their ass kicked.


    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    and there was testimony of Z whom testified that M approached him as he was headed back to his truck. You don't get to claim SYG if you are the one approaching another, and initiating a fight. That's called assault.

    Gee, the guy with the gun who survived the encounter says "hey the other guy started it" - isn't that a surprise.

    As I said, Zimmerman wasn't guilty of Murder 2, the prosecution (a) over charged it, and (b) presented a piss poor case. "Not Guilty", not a problem. But please don't expect me to believe an individual that had already shown a willingness to lie to the court without some independent confirmation - and as to who started the physical altercation, there is no confirmation.



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    Re: George Zimmerman Arrested Again In Central Florida [W:351]

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    If Martin was prowling, GZ should have said it. I think his words were "looking about"

    He should have said on the 911 calls that he was going up to houses and looking into them. He only made such inferences after he shot TM.
    Wtf?
    Should have?
    How do you know he didn't think he had?
    The fact was that the call was made on a suspicious person. One does not have to elaborate further then that to a call taker.
    It was enough to generate Police response.
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    Re: George Zimmerman Arrested Again In Central Florida [W:351]

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    So there is evidence the dead unarmed kid committed a crime, but not the Z man.
    Yes, there is evidence of an assault which Zimmerman responded to with justified lethal self defense.
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    Re: George Zimmerman Arrested Again In Central Florida [W:351]

    If I recall correctly this evidence is only Z's word.
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    Yes, there is evidence of an assault which Zimmerman respond to with justified lethal self defense.
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    Re: George Zimmerman Arrested Again In Central Florida [W:351]

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    If I recall correctly this evidence is only Z's word.

    Indications of an assault (actually battery) are only dependent on Zimmerman's words. However the fact that he was below Martin during the struggle is supported by "John's" testimony. His testimony though sheds no light on who initiated the physical altercation.



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    Re: George Zimmerman Arrested Again In Central Florida [W:351]

    Quote Originally Posted by WorldWatcher View Post
    However Martin didn't "have" to do that, he was just as justified under Florida Law to Stand His Ground
    D'oh! Attacking is not standing your ground.


    Quote Originally Posted by WorldWatcher View Post
    and not have to run away from the man chasing him across the housing development.
    Being followed, is not a chase.


    Quote Originally Posted by WorldWatcher View Post
    But please don't expect me to believe an individual that had already shown a willingness to lie to the court without some independent confirmation - and as to who started the physical altercation, there is no confirmation.
    No willingness to lie has been shown. Nor could it, as the evidence is not there.
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    Re: George Zimmerman Arrested Again In Central Florida [W:351]

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    If I recall correctly this evidence is only Z's word.
    And?
    It is evidence. Evidence that is believable.
    Evidence that is supported by physical evidence.

    He fully cooperated, passed lie detection efforts and withstood multiple examinations by various officers.
    He more than came across as believable. He would not have withstood such scrutiny had he not been telling the truth.
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    Re: George Zimmerman Arrested Again In Central Florida [W:351]

    Oh yea, and he is of impecible character.
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    And?
    It is evidence. Evidence that is believable.

    He fully cooperated, passed lie detection efforts and withstood multiple examinations by various officers.
    He more than came across as believable. He would not have withstood such scrutiny had he not been telling the truth.
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    Re: George Zimmerman Arrested Again In Central Florida [W:351]

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    Oh yea, and he is of impecible character.
    Your opinion of him does not change the facts.

    Evidence that is supported by physical evidence.

    He fully cooperated, passed lie detection efforts and withstood multiple examinations by various officers.
    He more than came across as believable. He would not have withstood such scrutiny had he not been telling the truth.
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    Re: George Zimmerman Arrested Again In Central Florida [W:351]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Rightfully so. The state did not prove its case. However, I do believe that Zimmerman acted recklessly. But stupidity is not a crime.
    THAT IS EXACTLY what I have been saying all along.
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