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    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    How's that blind partisan bias
    So now it is partisan bias to give a damn what our court says? What the hell are you talking about? I went by the facts of the case, and I accepted the verdict. The fact is there was NOT enough evidence to convict Zimmerman of murder and YOU KNOW IT. The fact is you probably claimed race was a factor, that Zimmerman was an evil white man, and that this was premeditated murder. Whatever NBC tells you right?

    The FACT is that my emotional gut reaction was that Zimmerman was wrong. But my logical ADULT mind overrode my childish emotional reaction and told me to look at the facts. The fact that Trayvon returned to confront Zimmerman is all I need to know. That Trayvon was clearly on top of Zimmerman beating him. All evidence points to Zimmerman acting in self defense.

    He isn't a hero. He isn't a "role model." He was stupid. And he made a mistake. But his mistake wasn't illegal. It was just stupid.


    working out for ya? Trayvon texted about a gun one day and then was walking slowly through a neighborhood. He was labeled a dangerous thug and the right collectively pinned him up as the poster boy for a career criminal we are better off without.
    PLEASE. Are you kidding me? You really think the "right" is responsible for Trayvon's already extant criminal record? The fact is he DID break Zimmerman's nose. He WAS on top of Zimmerman. And he DID turn around to confront him. He (Trayvon) had 4 minutes to cover less than what? 200 yards? Hey may not have been a "gangsta thug," but he WAS a criminal.

    I feel bad for his family. Their son got sucked into the criminal life. He was too old to be corrected by his parents. And sadly he paid with his life. Had he jus walked home...he would he alive. But instead he decided to go confront some "creepy white guy."

    Zimmerman however killed a teenager, and has been accused of what... 6 felonies with this last one?
    We have this thing called the United States Department of Justice. And this other thing called a Constitution. You really think it is relevant how many times he has been "accused?" Do you really think that should be admissible in court? It seems you are for some kind of ridiculous Nazi/Soviet totalitarian/French "Reign of Terror"/you have no rights" style of government. You are calling me a partisan hack for believing in our justice system?

    And you guys are like "omg leave him alone this isn't fair he could be innocent".
    No. Actually that isn't what I said. If you weren't so concerned about my political affiliation...and instead read what I wrote...you would realize that I don't give one iota of a **** what happens to Zimmerman IF...and read this carefully because you clearly didn't do it the first time...he is found guilty in a court of law.

    Yeah... the public opinion is SO stupid on this one....
    Yes. It is. When the public opinion turns into public mob rule...and completely ignores the law we have set up in this country so that the mass can't just go out and lynch someone they perceive as guilty. I thought we had maybe surpassed that way of life, but clearly people like you still believe in the KKK/Reign of Terror style of justice. No court room...just "guilty guilt guilty."

    And I am the partisan hack? Because I want a fair trial.
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    Re: George Zimmerman Arrested Again In Central Florida [W:351]

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post

    Yes. It is. When the public opinion turns into public mob rule...and completely ignores the law we have set up in this country so that the mass can't just go out and lynch someone they perceive as guilty. I thought we had maybe surpassed that way of life, but clearly people like you still believe in the KKK/Reign of Terror style of justice. No court room...just "guilty guilt guilty."

    And I am the partisan hack? Because I want a fair trial.
    A "fair trial" is an interesting concept. It is something we all want and for better or worse I think we have one of the best systems around.

    Is it foulproof? No way in hell. Thge use of DNA evidence has shown us that it is not foulproof. Without reliable witnesses or a video camera it often goes to which lawyer can do the best convincing.

    I was a juror at a rape trial a couple years ago and the prosecutor made the defense attorney look like an amateur. The prosecutor performed like a matador and was able to get the defendent to lose his anger on the witness stand and show us a different side of him from the polite smiling man we had seen the first day of trial.

    It is futile to argue about the Zimmerman-Martin case any longer as it has been oversaturated in evaluation. As for the comment about "No court room...just "guilty guilty guitly." that goes both ways.

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    Re: George Zimmerman Arrested Again In Central Florida [W:351]

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    And I am the partisan hack? Because I want a fair trial.
    Zimmerman GOT a fair trial.
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    Re: George Zimmerman Arrested Again In Central Florida [W:351]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Zimmerman GOT a fair trial.
    And was found 'Not Guilty' by a jury of his peers....This is a different case.
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    Re: George Zimmerman Arrested Again In Central Florida [W:351]

    Being found not guilty simply means there was not enough evidence to convict him, not that there was evidence that he did not do it. Not guilty is far from proven innocent.
    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    And was found 'Not Guilty' by a jury of his peers....This is a different case.
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    Re: George Zimmerman Arrested Again In Central Florida [W:351]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    All right, I've about had it with this dude....Enough already Zim....Just move. Change your name, move out of state, and get out of the news....!
    I hope you're not one of the ones backing this murderer up during the trial and subsequent to the verdict. Because if you were, you should be ashamed turning your back on him now, in his hour of need ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    Being found not guilty simply means there was not enough evidence to convict him, not that there was evidence that he did not do it. Not guilty is far from proven innocent.
    So you only accept verdicts you agree with eh....Nice...You are then a shining example of why we don't condone posies, and lynch mobs....
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    Re: George Zimmerman Arrested Again In Central Florida [W:351]

    Quote Originally Posted by mikeafone View Post
    I hope you're not one of the ones backing this murderer up during the trial and subsequent to the verdict. Because if you were, you should be ashamed turning your back on him now, in his hour of need ...
    Yep, I did back up Z in the T v. M trial. And still think to this day that although what Z did that night in terms of following M, was stupid, but that the moment that M turned instead of going home, and attacked Z, then Z had every right to defend himself.

    On this however, Z is placing himself in these domestic situations, by either choosing poorly the women he is with, or not separating himself before these situations escalate. In that case he is every bit as subject to the law for these things if found guilty as anyone else.
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    Re: George Zimmerman Arrested Again In Central Florida [W:351]

    Meaningless drivel. Not guilty means not enough evidence to convict, not proven innocent.
    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So you only accept verdicts you agree with eh....Nice...You are then a shining example of why we don't condone posies, and lynch mobs....
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    Re: George Zimmerman Arrested Again In Central Florida [W:351]

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    First of all I think the jury made the correct call because there was not enough evidence for a conviction, however...

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    PLEASE. Are you kidding me? You really think the "right" is responsible for Trayvon's already extant criminal record?
    Martin had no criminal record, he'd had never been arrested for anything. Of the two the only one with a criminal record was Zimmerman based on his 2005 arrest for battery against a police officer.


    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    The fact is he DID break Zimmerman's nose.
    No that is not a fact. Zimmerman refused EMT transport to the hospital and he saw doctor the next day (the only reason he saw a doctor was for a return to work statement) and that doctor said it was possible but Zimmerman refused to have it x-ray'd or to see an ENT specialist to confirm.


    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    He WAS on top of Zimmerman.
    Just because a person is loosing a fight is not proof that they didn't start the fight.


    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    And he DID turn around to confront him. He (Trayvon) had 4 minutes to cover less than what? 200 yards? Hey may not have been a "gangsta thug," but he WAS a criminal.
    #1 - There is no evidence that Martin left and returned to the area of the fight, all that is available is Zimmerman's description.

    #2 - Martin was in a place he was legally allowed to be and was not participating in any criminal activity, after trying to evade the person who was following him 3 times (once walking away from the Northeast cutthrough on Retreat View Circle, one walking away from the clubhouse, and finally running away from the vehicle) he was under no obligation under Florida's Stand Your Ground law to retreat if he felt endangered from the person that was pursuing him (from his perspective). He had a right to stand and defend himself if he preceived he was in danger. (Not the smartest thing in the world I will agree, but he had a legal right to do so.)


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