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    Re: George Zimmerman Arrested Again In Central Florida [W:351]

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    Of late you dont even have to call them racist, they simply deny it, then say something racist. But yea, you are correct.
    I suggest you two look up a simple term "ad hominem" and learn the value of being able to actually dissect an argument. It might have the unintended consequence of making you look informed

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    Re: George Zimmerman Arrested Again In Central Florida

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    I read them and apparently you did not. since I seem to know more about what they said than you.

    did you not see the two quotes from two of your articles that said exactly the same thing I did?

    all your articles demonstrate is that blacks get arrested more often. a point which is not in contention.

    there is nothing in any of the articles you linked that supports your ridiculous claim that whites are BY FAR the biggest users of illegal drugs.

    in case you missed or ignored them again:

    two quotes from the articles you linked
    There’s a perception among many individuals that African Americans as a group — regardless of socioeconomic status — tend to abuse or use drugs at higher rate and this [does not support] that.”

    Read more: Study: Whites More Likely to Abuse Drugs Than Blacks | TIME.com Study: Whites More Likely to Abuse Drugs Than Blacks | TIME.com

    Study: Whites More Likely to Abuse Drugs Than Blacks | TIME.com

    According to the federal Centers for Disease Control, he's (white male youth )4 times more likely than his African- American classmate to be a regular cocaine user.

    White Kids Are Much More Likely to Use and Sell Drugs, Yet Black Kids Are More Likely to Go to Prison

    Seems to be quite a bit of information available to support this claim. In addition, and I'll provide sources if you would like, they are disproportionately arrested for it are more likely to be convicted and get harsher sentencing when they are.
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    Re: George Zimmerman Arrested Again In Central Florida

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackAsCoal View Post
    Black youth are arrested for drug crimes at a rate ten times higher than that of whites. But new research shows that young African Americans are actually less likely to use drugs and less likely to develop substance use disorders, compared to whites, Native Americans, Hispanics and people of mixed race.

    Read more: Study: Whites More Likely to Abuse Drugs Than Blacks | TIME.com Study: Whites More Likely to Abuse Drugs Than Blacks | TIME.com
    Without getting into a debate about the CDC figures presented earlier, these disproportionate outcomes can be addressed by many things and should not be simply assumed to be the product of racism. For example, drug distribution networks are often ethnically based and centered in poorer communities. With those in african american majority areas operating openly and being very easily accessible to law enforcement for those reasons. There are also other effects that poverty unfortunately has, like access to adequate legal representation, etc

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    Re: George Zimmerman Arrested Again In Central Florida [W:351]

    I was replying directly to someone with my opinion adding to his thought. Which argument are you referring too? As for making me look informed to you, all I would have to do is start mindlessly spouting the conservative RW drivel you would think I was a genius. I know what ad hom is, you just did it. Did you have some sort of contribution to the conversation? Oh yea, nevermind...
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    I suggest you two look up a simple term "ad hominem" and learn the value of being able to actually dissect an argument. It might have the unintended consequence of making you look informed
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    Re: George Zimmerman Arrested Again In Central Florida

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackAsCoal View Post
    blah blah, quibble quibble.
    I don't blame you, it is embarrassing to be shown to be wrong. but don't get mad at me. I didn't pick your articles. you picked 'em, you linked 'em. it's not my fault that they didn't say what you thought/wanted them to say.

    but, to play by your rules:

    Whites are by far the hardest workers in the country, since they have BY FAR more jobs than blacks

    Whites are by far the smartest race in the country, since they have BY FAR more college degrees than blacks

    Whites are by far the most successful race in the country, since they have BY FAR more property and money than blacks.




    yes, I too am fine with letting the facts (like the fact that 72% of blacks are born to unwed mothers) speak for themselves.
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    Re: George Zimmerman Arrested Again In Central Florida

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    White Kids Are Much More Likely To Be Using (And Selling) Drugs!
    you realize none of the quoted figures actually support the highlighted claim?

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    Re: George Zimmerman Arrested Again In Central Florida

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    you realize none of the quoted figures actually support the highlighted claim?
    this is the statement I was referring to "claim that whites are BY FAR the biggest users of illegal drugs." It doesn't say anything about selling in the post I responded to.
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    Re: George Zimmerman Arrested Again In Central Florida [W:351]

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    I was replying directly to someone with my opinion adding to his thought. Which argument are you referring too? As for making me look informed to you, all I would have to do is start mindlessly spouting the conservative RW drivel you would think I was a genius.
    Well, it would depend if that "conservative RW drivel" could be defended on it's own merits or not.

    I know what ad hom is, you just did it.
    Actually, no, an ad hom would require that I attack your character to dismiss some argument from you. Pointing out that you are promoting the use of an ad hom and how such makes you look uninformed does not do that

    Did you have some sort of contribution to the conversation? Oh yea, nevermind...
    Yes, I have made many so far

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    Re: George Zimmerman Arrested Again In Central Florida

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    this is the statement I was referring to "claim that whites are BY FAR the biggest users of illegal drugs." It doesn't say anything about selling in the post I responded to.
    It's contained in the headline of one of the sources you cited ...

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    Re: George Zimmerman Arrested Again In Central Florida

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    There’s a perception among many individuals that African Americans as a group — regardless of socioeconomic status — tend to abuse or use drugs at higher rate and this [does not support] that.”

    Read more: Study: Whites More Likely to Abuse Drugs Than Blacks | TIME.com Study: Whites More Likely to Abuse Drugs Than Blacks | TIME.com

    Study: Whites More Likely to Abuse Drugs Than Blacks | TIME.com

    According to the federal Centers for Disease Control, he's (white male youth )4 times more likely than his African- American classmate to be a regular cocaine user.

    White Kids Are Much More Likely to Use and Sell Drugs, Yet Black Kids Are More Likely to Go to Prison

    Seems to be quite a bit of information available to support this claim. In addition, and I'll provide sources if you would like, they are disproportionately arrested for it are more likely to be convicted and get harsher sentencing when they are.
    that's funny since I linked and quoted the actual stats from the CDC that clearly show that blacks and whites abuse illegal drugs at about the same rate.


    also funny that neither of you have actually linked the stats, but instead insist on linking someone else's interpretation of the stats.

    like BaC said, link the actual stats and let the FACTS speak for themselves......
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