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    A Russian GPS Using U.S. Soil Stirs Spy Fears

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/17/wo...nceagency&_r=0


    WASHINGTON — In the view of America’s spy services, the next potential threat from Russia may not come from a nefarious cyberweapon or secrets gleaned from the files of Edward J. Snowden, the former National Security Agency contractor now in Moscow.

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    Instead, this menace may come in the form of a seemingly innocuous dome-topped antenna perched atop an electronics-packed building surrounded by a security fence somewhere in the United States.

    In recent months, the Central Intelligence Agency and the Pentagon have been quietly waging a campaign to stop the State Department from allowing Roscosmos, the Russian space agency, to build about half a dozen of these structures, known as monitor stations, on United States soil, several American officials said.

    They fear that these structures could help Russia spy on the United States and improve the precision of Russian weaponry, the officials said. These monitor stations, the Russians contend, would significantly improve the accuracy and reliability of Moscow’s version of the Global Positioning System, the American satellite network that steers guided missiles to their targets and thirsty smartphone users to the nearest Starbucks.
    We'll build these for them, and they'll be packed with explosive underneath.
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    Re: A Russian GPS Using U.S. Soil Stirs Spy Fears

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
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    We'll build these for them, and they'll be packed with explosive underneath.
    Weird. That is a really bizarre story. Do the Europeans and Chinese need these domes for their systems and do we need have them in Russia? Do you know?

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    Re: A Russian GPS Using U.S. Soil Stirs Spy Fears

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Weird. That is a really bizarre story. Do the Europeans and Chinese need these domes for their systems and do we need have them in Russia? Do you know?
    The equivalent addition to the GPS system is called WAAS. (wide area augmentation system) It provides a correction signal that improves GPS accuracy. WAAS is installed in the US, Mexico, and Canada. A GPS-compatible system is already operating in Europe. The Chinese are currently developing a system that is compatible. Not sure about Russia.

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    Those Commie Soviets are up to their old... what? Ended over 20 years ago? We won the cold war already? We've been spying on the Russians for decades now, and they've been spying back on us? Really? Where have I been all this time?

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    Re: A Russian GPS Using U.S. Soil Stirs Spy Fears

    Well, maybe those mystery barges aren't google server farms after all......

    And if you gave people the choice of having to give up their GPS or allowing it to potentially be used to kill them, they would vote Tom Tom, because Americans are self-interested, short-sighted petulant idiots if nothing else.

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    It's almost ironic that I just finished reading 1984.
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    Re: A Russian GPS Using U.S. Soil Stirs Spy Fears

    While I'd prefer Russia not spy inside America, I'm not going to hyperventilate about it for a couple of reasons: 1) our own government spies on us, 2) we take in Russian immigrants that are likely spies and 3) the Russian embassy comes equipped with spies.

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    Most liberals don't care that billyjeff enabled them to buy technology so their missiles could target cities, and we expect this to bother anyone! Billyjeff also gave them the technology to make their subs silent, but who cares right?

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    Re: A Russian GPS Using U.S. Soil Stirs Spy Fears

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/17/wo...nceagency&_r=0

    We'll build these for them, and they'll be packed with explosive underneath.
    Does anyone remember MAD
    "spy vs spy" .........

    is truth stranger?

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    something ......

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    Re: A Russian GPS Using U.S. Soil Stirs Spy Fears

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Well, maybe those mystery barges aren't google server farms after all......

    And if you gave people the choice of having to give up their GPS or allowing it to potentially be used to kill them, they would vote Tom Tom, because Americans are self-interested, short-sighted petulant idiots if nothing else.
    Or maybe some of us are able to assess the likelihood of that GPS "potentially" being used to kill us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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