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    Re: Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charges

    Quote Originally Posted by lawboy View Post
    1ST degree;

    a) Murder perpetrated by means of poison, lying in wait, or any other willful, deliberate, and premeditated killing.

    Second degree is not premeditated.
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    Re: Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    You are not telling me something I do not know.
    You asked for the law. I provided it.
    Oh, sorry, my error.

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    Re: Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Really? That isn't what the Prosecutor is reported as saying.
    Where is the broken glass? I ask because every pic and video of the door I see, shows reflection off the glass.

    Really?
    You know that how?

    I am not saying the report is accurate, as I understand that mistakes can be made.
    But you are going to have to show me that it was a mistake, and not just something you believe.
    It looks like a screen door without glass to me.
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    Re: Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Really? That isn't what the Prosecutor is reported as saying.
    Where is the broken glass? I ask because every pic and video of the door I see, shows reflection off the glass.

    Really?
    You know that how?

    I am not saying the report is accurate, as I understand that mistakes can be made.
    But you are going to have to show me that it was a mistake, and not just something you believe.
    What is it that you believe? That there was a storm door and a screen door? I fail to see that it's a material difference in any case -- whether it was glass or screen. He obviously had the main interior door open. It is reported that the exterior door/screen or glass was locked. What is it that you presume happened that is contradictory to the photo you posted above?

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    Re: Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charges

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    If he felt threatened, he should have called the cops instead of shooting someone.

    That's why it's murder
    If he truly felt threatened, then self defense would have been recognized.

    It is acceptable to take a life in self defense without calling the police first if there is insufficient time.

    That's why it is called 'self defense'.

    Obviously, the prosecutor felt that there was no evidence to support the homeowner's claim of feeling threatened.
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    Re: Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    It looks like a screen door without glass to me.
    Really?
    Maybe you are not looking close enough?
    I see a glass door with screen behind it.

    In addition.

    You can't see the reflection in this image?

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    Re: Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charges

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    What is it that you believe? That there was a storm door and a screen door? I fail to see that it's a material difference in any case -- whether it was glass or screen. He obviously had the main interior door open. It is reported that the exterior door/screen or glass was locked. What is it that you presume happened that is contradictory to the photo you posted above?
    You apparently want to ignore what was reported.
    Storm door open, screen door locked.
    In that scenario she had already opened one door to his home at oh-dark-thirty in the morning and proceeded with the banging.
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    Re: Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    You apparently want to ignore what was reported.
    Storm door open, screen door locked.
    In that scenario she had already opened one door to his home at oh-dark-thirty in the morning and proceeded with the banging.
    Lordy, Excon. Please show me one picture from the vast world-wide web of a house that has a screen door, then a storm door, then an interior door. Give it up. The "screen door" is the "storm door."

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    Re: Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Really?
    Maybe you are not looking close enough?
    I see a glass door with screen behind it.

    In addition.

    You can't see the reflection in this image?

    What the hell are you talking about?

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    Re: Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    At least Zimmerman was getting his ass kicked on his back. This wet your pants scared conservative was terrified through a locked door.

    You guys don't get it both ways. If you want yours guns you also get the responsibility. If you kill someone for no good reason you go to prison for the rest of your life, just like everyone else.
    Bull****.

    I am one of the people whom you are disparaging unjustly.

    I carry a weapon daily, and am quite aware of my responsibility morally and within the confines of my religion - I have researched both extensively.

    The logic is simple - if the life of self or family is threatened, then I have no problem removing that threat immediately.

    If avoiding the threat involves removing the family and myself immediately from the area with out firing any rounds that is a win.

    If avoidance is impossible, and confrontation is eminent, then I will be firing until the threat ceases to be a threat.

    If that involves the death of the perpetrator, then that is acceptable.

    If said perpetrator is outside my door, and indicates that he is coming in to kill me or us, his first aggressive move will be his last.

    I do not want to have anything both ways, nor do the pro-gun folks who I know.

    Use your broad brush to paint something else.
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