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    Re: Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    1.)Wrong! It is a false and adopted narrative. Nothing more than that.
    2.) It was what the family was saying
    3.) (which is contrary to the evidence)
    4.) when they had no clue before the Prosecutor decided to press charges.
    5.) The Prosecutor adopted i
    6.) t, and it flies directly in the face of the evidence which is she was banging. Not knocking.
    1.) no has proven with evidence its a fact and the narritive is facts and legality
    2.) yes the family did say this and it has nothgin to do with the county prosecutor
    3.) no legally there is no evidence to suggest there was anything more than knocking, if you disagree please please provide this evidence that LEGALLY says there was something more than knocking we would love to read it
    4.) yes the family had no clue what happened at the time of thier statments this is true and impacts nothgin being discussed
    5.) false the county prosecuted WAITED for the evidence then stated what the evidence reports
    6.) again see 3#

    legally alone they are the same
    again your post fails to change any facts
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    Re: Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    I also get the feeling that is is just time to push him and his absurdity to the wayside.
    the concession of the inability of your posts to back up your posted lies is noted, along with this deflection and repeated post trying to focus on me and not the topic.

    When you have something on topic and can support the lies pointed out in your post please do so.
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    Re: Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charges

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    Are statements made by the suspect and not corroborated by anyone else evidence?
    yes this is true

    legally knocking and "banging" are no different by themselves

    since theres zero evidence of forced entry they are the same legally

    dents in the door? then yes they are different
    evidence of prying the door away? yes they are different

    since the police stated there's no signs of forced entry then legally they are the same since they were done with a hand.
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    Re: Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charges

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) not being able to back up claims is not my issue but please continue to deflect
    2.) so whats a closed hand pounding? is that a knock or a banging? by itself legal and factually what does it change? nothign
    while both words are accurate one is suggestive that there was something wrong being done
    3.) yes thats his claim
    4.) the country prosecutor
    5.) now its not a down play, since theres no evidence of forcible entry its accurate and since they are educated on law and what not they use accurate veribage

    would you like proof?


    legal, based on the action and name alone

    what is the difference between knock and banging?

    5.) of course they will try to play a dishonest dramatic word game and try to paint a picture has the driver was doing something wrong when the action alone is no different legally, i agree 100%

    6.) nope i see reality
    ill repeat the story i just told in the other thread

    banging is subjective and suggest wrong doing and emotion and i agree it will cause a reaction that will be different to everybody.

    again my daughter did it (banging) one night about 3 in the morning on time, she didnt have her key, was at the neighbors house sleeping over but they wanted to leave to go to the hospital and she wanted to come home. phones didnt wake us so she knocked on the door, it was a louder knock, banging, you know since it was 3am and we were probably sleeping. It did the trick it woke me up and at no time did i think break in. WHy because thats stupid and banging on a door alone is not equal to breaking in

    when she did it in the middle of the day i was frustrated and told her not to do that, theres no need but again, she did nothing wrong and i never thought break in.

    the bottom line is its dramatic language and you know it

    LEGALLY by itself its MEANINGLESS unless theres MORE

    banging on a door and evidence of forced entry, THAT matters, banging on a door alone NOPE

    heck stereo typically how do most police "knock" on a door? people say they bang on it lol

    7.) you concession and inability to defend your post is noted and if thats what you choose to do that fine by me

    nothing you said changes the facts list or has any legal impact at all, feel free to disagree with those to fact if you like though

    and if you dont want to concede by all means simply provide proof why the two terms by themselves legally and factually matter
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    6.) What your reaction to your daughter was, is irrelevant, and I don't care what you have to say
    7.) I don't care what you have to say....

    Get it? See a pattern there?
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    Re: Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charges

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Are statements made by the suspect and not corroborated by anyone else evidence?
    Of course they can.
    What do you think the following means?
    "If you do say anything, what you say can be used against you in a court of law."


    The defense can do the same with what they have said.
    The defendant is a witness to what he is being charged.
    There is an accused version of events, is there not? And that they are allowed to present that to the jury, are they not?



    And, it is in the 911 call. It is part of the record.


    And you can ignore him, as everybody knows there is a difference between knocking and banging.
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    Re: Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charges

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    1.) Here you go, maybe you'll understand this:
    2.) I don't care what you have to say
    3.) I don't care what you have to say
    4.) I don't care what you have to say
    5.) Writing in listed points is so annoying that I am considering blocking you from my view
    6.) What your reaction to your daughter was, is irrelevant, and I don't care what you have to say
    7.) I don't care what you have to say....

    8.)Get it? See a pattern there?
    1-7) yes i understand you dont care what the facts are and youd rather deflect then to actually have to defend your post with any facts of your of you own you have proved this
    8.) yes i have seen this obvious patteren in your post history

    but keeping on topic and not talkign about ME since you changed nothign ill just say it point it out again'


    fact is, alone and by themselves there is no legal difference between knocking and "banging"

    when you have ANYTHING to change this fact please let me know . . . or even ONE thing that changes it. . . . .one
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    Re: Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Of course they can.
    What do you think the following means?
    "If you do say anything, what you say can be used against you in a court of law."


    The defense can do the same with what they have said.
    The defendant is a witness to what he is being charged.
    There is an accused version of events, is there not? And that they are allowed to present that to the jury, are they not?



    And, it is in the 911 call. It is part of the record.


    And you can ignore him, as everybody knows there is a difference between knocking and banging.
    That's what she said?

    Sorry...

    But I understand your point. Thing is, if we're talking a trial here, the lawyer would still have to convince the jury that his client was telling the truth when he described the situation.

    If he takes a plea, OTOH....well, we shall see...
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    Re: Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charges

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    That's what she said?

    Sorry...

    But I understand your point. Thing is, if we're talking a trial here, the lawyer would still have to convince the jury that his client was telling the truth when he described the situation.

    If he takes a plea, OTOH....well, we shall see...
    I understand that.
    I was just emphasizing that what a defendant says can be evidence.

    But he really doesn't have to convince.
    He can and will present it in the best light, but the prosecution is the one who has to prove their case.
    Not the other way around.
    Even in cases off an affirmative defense, the Prosecution still has to prove it's case.
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    Re: Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charges

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    That's what she said?

    Sorry...

    But I understand your point. Thing is, if we're talking a trial here, the lawyer would still have to convince the jury that his client was telling the truth when he described the situation.

    If he takes a plea, OTOH....well, we shall see...
    not only that unless theres more facts with it "banging" doesnt establish anything legally in favor of the homeowner
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