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    Re: Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charges

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    If the porch light was working, which I don't know, why in the world would he feel it was necessary to "point" his weapon at a young girl. I don't consider the time of night a valid reason either.
    There is that spin again. Young girl indeed.
    Young woman is what she was. A 19 year old woman.

    Now show he knew that was who was at the door.
    You can't because it is most likely he didn't know.
    Nor do you know if he pointed it or not.
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    Re: Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    No they were not unnecessary or extraordinary dangerous.
    Even if he did have his finger on the trigger and pointed it at her it was wise in the situation he believed he was in ~ someone breaking into his house.
    Obviously a reasonable assumption. Most burglars pound on your door before coming in.
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    Re: Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Obviously a reasonable assumption. Most burglars pound on your door before coming in.

    Banging heard from the door would sound like a person trying to break-in through the door.
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    Re: Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charges

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    I totally disagree that pointing a firearm at someone shows intention to kill the person. It may likely show a willingness or potential to do so.
    Don't understand classic gun handling skills do you?

    If one points a gun at someone else, it ain't a sign of friendship now is it?
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    Re: Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post

    Banging heard from the door would sound like a person trying to break-in through the door.
    Wrong again.

    Tapping, knocking, or banging on a door does not indicate any sign of break-in intent but an effort to get attention of those inside.

    Spin again.
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    Re: Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charges

    If banging on the door was a license to shoot someone, I'd have killed about 50 UPS drivers by now.
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    Re: Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charges

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Wrong again.

    Tapping, knocking, or banging on a door does not indicate any sign of break-in intent but an effort to get attention of those inside.

    Spin again.
    Wrong you are.
    And quite frankly a really absurd reply.
    Banging heard from the door would sound like a person trying to break-in through the door, as it obviously did.
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    Re: Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    If banging on the door was a license to shoot someone, I'd have killed about 50 UPS drivers by now.
    Oy vey!
    Did anybody say it was?

    It was an accidental discharge.
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    Re: Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Oy vey!
    Did anybody say it was?

    It was an accidental discharge.
    So he accidentally shot what he was pointing his shotgun at? I'm sorry, 2nd degree murder is appropriate when someone is so insanely reckless that they carelessly disregard human life by pointing a weapon at someone who's not a threat.

    second degree murder n. a non-premeditated killing, resulting from an assault in which death of the victim was a distinct possibility. Second degree murder is different from First Degree Murder which is a premeditated, intentional killing, or results from a vicious crime such as arson, rape, or armed robbery. Exact distinctions on degree vary by state.
    Second-degree murder is ordinarily defined as: 1) an intentional killing that is not premeditated or planned, nor committed in a reasonable "heat of passion"; or 2) a killing caused by dangerous conduct and the offender's obvious lack of concern for human life. Second-degree murder may best be viewed as the middle ground between first-degree murder and voluntary manslaughter.
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    Re: Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    So he accidentally shot what he was pointing his shotgun at? I'm sorry, 2nd degree murder is appropriate when someone is so insanely reckless that they carelessly disregard human life by pointing a weapon at someone who's not a threat.
    You clearly are lost.
    He was resounding to a perceived threat. Therefore was not reckless.
    Nor is it Murder 2, but manslaughter.

    And btw, try citing Michigan law and not an inapplicable legal dictionary.
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