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    Re: Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charges

    I agree the guy should be criminally prosecuted, but I'm not getting why 2nd Degree Murder is such a stretch. The guy opened his front door, the girl was standing on the other side of a screen door, he pointed a shotgun at her face and pretty much blew her head off through the screen door. He was in no danger; he knew he was in no danger. All he had to do was leave his door locked and call 911.

    If this isn't reckless disregard for human life, I don't know what is.

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    Re: Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charges

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    I agree the guy should be criminally prosecuted, but I'm not getting why 2nd Degree Murder is such a stretch. The guy opened his front door, the girl was standing on the other side of a screen door, he pointed a shotgun at her face and pretty much blew her head off through the screen door. He was in no danger; he knew he was in no danger. All he had to do was leave his door locked and call 911.

    If this isn't reckless disregard for human life, I don't know what is.
    His argument is that he both felt threatened and accidentally discharged his weapon.

    Apparently.

    Personally, that seems a bit sketchy to me, but we'll see.
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    Re: Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charges

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Apparently, the DA is not prepared to buy his "oops." According to a story I read (not sure about above), she knocked on a locked screen door. There was no evidence of attempted forced entry.

    Michigan has a stand-your-ground law. Now. Will people PLEASE stop griping that it's a license to kill????
    I await the outcome of the trial and/or anything else that might be the outcome. Just charging him, that's not enough.
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    Re: Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charges

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    His argument is that he both felt threatened and accidentally discharged his weapon.

    Apparently.

    Personally, that seems a bit sketchy to me, but we'll see.
    It sounds sketchy to me too

    The guy hears someone at his front door - OK
    He feels like his life is threatened - OK
    So he gets his gun - OK
    and opens the front door --WTF???

    There could some sequence of events that make his actions make sense, but I'm not seeing it.

    But life is strange. We'll have to wait to hear the details.
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    Re: Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    People are already blaming the victim for staggering too far while seeking help.
    Why is it assumed she was seeking help?

    There was a group of people at the accident scene helping her.

    I guess we willnever know why she did what she did, but I don't asume she was seeking help.

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    Re: Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    How does shooting somebody in the back of the head not involve malice?

    edit: Hrm, this article says she was shot in the face. A different one I read said back of the head. Hooray for journalism.
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    Re: Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charges

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    I agree the guy should be criminally prosecuted, but I'm not getting why 2nd Degree Murder is such a stretch. The guy opened his front door, the girl was standing on the other side of a screen door, he pointed a shotgun at her face and pretty much blew her head off through the screen door. He was in no danger; he knew he was in no danger. All he had to do was leave his door locked and call 911.

    If this isn't reckless disregard for human life, I don't know what is.
    When did the prosecutor release evidence to prove he "aimed" at her face? I haven't seen that yet.

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    Re: Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charges

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    At the start, the family told the press and media she was shot in the back of the head.

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    Re: Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Why is it assumed she was seeking help?

    There was a group of people at the accident scene helping her.

    I guess we willnever know why she did what she did, but I don't asume she was seeking help.
    I've not read that there were folks at the scene at the time she left the scene. Regardless, leaving the scene of an accident due to drunkenness or other form of disorientation or just because she f'ing felt like is no reason to shoot someone through a locked door based on any information to date.
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    Re: Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charges

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    It sounds sketchy to me too

    The guy hears someone at his front door - OK
    He feels like his life is threatened - OK
    So he gets his gun - OK
    and opens the front door --WTF???

    There could some sequence of events that make his actions make sense, but I'm not seeing it.

    But life is strange. We'll have to wait to hear the details.

    Most people will open their front door if someone is knocking. And some will answer the door while having a gun - though most don't openly display it initially. Rather, it is a reserve "just in case." Many people also will go outside their home to investigate if they hear noises.

    It is important to remember there would be essentially no reason to call the police given typical non-emergency response times. Just because police rushed to the scene on a call of someone shot does not mean they rush to the scene of "I heard suspicious noises" or "someone is knocking on my door."

    Have any of you - ever -called the police for someone knocking on your door?

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