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    Re: Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charges

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I don't know why you're focusing on the fact that she left the scene and disappeared for two hours. It doesn't seem important to me. Just curious

    The accused didn't know this, so it had nothing to do with his intent or motive. And it doesn't show that she was a threat to him. It's not like crashing your car while drunk driving and then leaving the scene is a thing that motivates people to break into a persons' home and hurt them.

    If I had to guess about why she disappeared, I'd say that either she wanted to take some time to sober up, or she banged her head and was disoriented from the crash.
    This was my thought. Think about it, you're 19 yrs old out with friends, your ****ed up but drive anyway and you crash your car. It seems to make more sense that that it freaked her out and she wanted to sober up before talking to the cops about the accident or seeing her parents. That would be a pretty typically stupid call by a 19yr old.. "pounding" on the door of a strangers house, with the plan of charging and overtaking whoever answered it ....pretty unlikely. Especially is she got a chance to see that it was a 6' man outweighing her by what 60lbs? Also, what would be her reasons for doing so?
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    Re: Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    People are already blaming the victim for staggering too far while seeking help.
    If you have any evidence that she was asking for help, present it.

    Since it learned he fired thru the screen NONE legitimate I read are blaming her. That doesn't mean the question of how was she acting is fully irrelevant.

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    Re: Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Yup. it could also backfire on the prosecution tho...
    Yes, possibly so. The prosecutor more opens up the question of motive - ie what was in his mind - and likely there is nothing to show maliciousness. This more allows a jury to ask each him/herself what would he/she be thinking work up at 3:40 am, half awake, and when you open the door there is a drug-crazed person covered in blood coming at you. This situation, he didn't create at all startled him leading to him pulling the trigger. Sure, a very LONG shot, but the more doors the prosecutor opens, the more doors the defense can go thru.

    I do think, at this point, the DA and city/county overall are deeply concerned at the potential civil unrest due to the demographics and number of unemployed African-Americans, which is averted merely by adding "murder" to the charge. I suspect the prosecutor's office at this time is more concerned of that potential than the case itself. I would expect this case to plea out when enough time has passed so that it is history.

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    Re: Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charges

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    This was my thought. Think about it, you're 19 yrs old out with friends, your ****ed up but drive anyway and you crash your car. It seems to make more sense that that it freaked her out and she wanted to sober up before talking to the cops about the accident or seeing her parents. That would be a pretty typically stupid call by a 19yr old.. "pounding" on the door of a strangers house, with the plan of charging and overtaking whoever answered it ....pretty unlikely. Especially is she got a chance to see that it was a 6' man outweighing her by what 60lbs? Also, what would be her reasons for doing so?
    I think that account of her is likely accurate, yes. But it doesn't matter what was in her head, what matters is what was in his head.

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    Re: Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charges

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Since you seem to want to argue unknown details,
    Pardon me?
    Unknown details?
    I am stating what the evidence is as provided to us.
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    Re: Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    I don't have to assume anything. I would only have to admit the mere possibility that her face would be at face level for that picture to be unable to tell me anything of value. I would only have to admit the mere possibility for the gun to be at a certain level as well. No assumptions necessary.
    Nope!
    You were assuming. You have no idea where her head was or where the gun was when it discharged.
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    Re: Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Nope!
    You were assuming. You have no idea where her head was or where the gun was when it discharged.
    I agree that I have no idea where her head was. That is actually the reason why the photo was useless. Not Assuming anything.
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    Re: Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    I agree that I have no idea where her head was. That is actually the reason why the photo was useless. Not Assuming anything.
    You made an assumption.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    Just to point out: Excon's top photo doesn't show anything of value at all, since the shot was to the face, and that photo doesn't show a face level shot of the doors.
    That clearly is an assumption.
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    Re: Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charges

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    This seemed necessary.
    iLOL

    No it doesn't seem necessary.
    But maybe you should forward that information along to the Prosecutor. She may find it helpful.
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    Re: Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    iLOL

    No it doesn't seem necessary.
    But maybe you should forward that information along to the Prosecutor. She may find it helpful.
    It seemed necessary to me.
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