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    Re: Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    Well... you're going on about defending your family from danger... from a teenage girl knocking on your door? ... Don't you think that sounds kind of funny?
    No i did not specifically refer to her, but SD in general, since you were making nasty comments about it.

    You need to read more thoroughly.
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    Re: Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    I think ttwtt may have a bit of a point, however. If she was that inebriated, then she may have seemed threatening. I think I could imagine that scene.
    Agreed, but we were not there, so we are left to speculation.

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    Re: Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charges

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Not at my fingertips - it was in one of the articles that I read yesterday.

    I believe that it had indicated trace amounts - the alcohol level was somewhere around 0.23 IIRC.

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    Homeowner charged with second-degree murder in killing of Renisha McBride | MLive.com
    Trace amounts of marijuana? There will be trace amounts when it is no longer having any effect. I am afraid I will have to dismiss the notion that marijuana was a factor, based on this evidence. We know what the intoxicants were, and we know that the one affecting her was quite a bit of alcohol.
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    Re: Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charges

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    No i did not specifically refer to her, but SD in general, since you were making nasty comments about it.

    You need to read more thoroughly.
    Oh how silly of me to think you were talking about the thread you're posting in. You were merely on your soapbox about self defense rights, in a thread about some idiot shooting someone.

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    Re: Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charges

    As irrational as some drunks behave, I have real trouble picturing this drunk woman as a threat, especially separated by the door. I can picture mouthy, staggering, stupid, slurring, and all the other attributes of a serious bender, but she's still outside and you are inside. Call the cops and let them shoot her. Lots of that goin' 'round.

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    Re: Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charges

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Agreed, but we were not there, so we are left to speculation.

    I appreciate your open-minded attitude.
    Yes, we can speculate, but it would be nice if people would be very clear that they are doing this when they do. I am trying to be open minded for sure. I am trying to take it all in, facts and perspectives.
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    Re: Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    Trace amounts of marijuana? There will be trace amounts when it is no longer having any effect. I am afraid I will have to dismiss the notion that marijuana was a factor, based on this evidence. We know what the intoxicants were, and we know that the one affecting her was quite a bit of alcohol.
    I completely agree - I was reiterating what I had read.

    That much alcohol is the major issue.
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    Re: Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charges

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    As irrational as some drunks behave, I have real trouble picturing this drunk woman as a threat, especially separated by the door. I can picture mouthy, staggering, stupid, slurring, and all the other attributes of a serious bender, but she's still outside and you are inside. Call the cops and let them shoot her. Lots of that goin' 'round.
    At first blush, this seems reasonable. However, not all drunks are as non-threatening as you portray. I have seen the kind you describe and other ones that are more... strange behaving.
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    Re: Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    Oh how silly of me to think you were talking about the thread you're posting in. You were merely on your soapbox about self defense rights, in a thread about some idiot shooting someone.
    Yes, how silly of you to not recognize that SD rights are exactly what we are discussing here.

    Par for the course from close minded people who refuse to accept common sense and rational discussion.

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    Re: Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charges

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    I completely agree - I was reiterating what I had read.

    That much alcohol is the major issue.
    It is an awful lot. She could have been behaving any number of ways, and the ways she may have been behaving could have changed drastically over short periods of time, I should think. I have seen it myself.
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