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    Re: Ohio delays inmate's execution over organ donation

    I love the idea of this being an option for inmates condemned to die. I'd support this as voluntary or even involuntary.
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    Re: Ohio delays inmate's execution over organ donation

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    More silly CON games. I cite the Bible, you wave vaguely at it. I cite the AMA and you try a CON dodge with ACA.
    I cite the bible and you deny it. LOL. The AMA is against the ban on partial birth abortions. IOW, the are against the law the says partial birth abortions is murder. But back to the ACA, if it isn't tossed one day you be screaming very loud. It give the Sec of HHS way to much power.

    NONE of which shows the legal abortions allowed by LAW and the MEDICAL community are executions- that was just your hyper-partisan CON game.
    You must not be aware of bans on partial birth abortion or don't mind lying about it.

    Now which preacher should I go to? The one who burns Qurans, or maybe the one who says Gays are going to hell?? Perhaps the one who's Church allows gays to be pastors, or perhaps the one who shuffled pedophiles from parish to parish???
    Or one of thousands of others.

    Typical, YOU vaguely wave at the Bible AND apparently require it to be explained by a preacher, as you have presented ZERO proof from the Holy Book...
    LOL. Learn to read.

    No Sir your stalking horse is on it's last legs, bring abortion into something completely different and then rather than provide proof of ANYTHING you claim, drag the ACA in as well...
    LOL. Causing life to end is "completely different"? You can't be that ...never mind.

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    Re: Ohio delays inmate's execution over organ donation

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    You and I have differing definitions of "prove."

    Look, he's correct that neither the AMA nor any part of the US government consider a legal abortion to be an "execution." Or murder. Or manslaughter. We know you disagree. Your opinion doesn't change the law.
    Of course they do, under certain conditions. Your opinion doesn't change the law.
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    Re: Ohio delays inmate's execution over organ donation

    Doesn't the shot cocktail ruin the organs? Can they be rinsed and flushed out safely?

    The way I see it, they can't take the organs until the damned is officially deceased. If they are thinking about putting him under and harvesting the organs while he is still alive. That's just plain wrong.

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    Re: Ohio delays inmate's execution over organ donation

    Quote Originally Posted by d0gbreath View Post
    That's just plain wrong.
    Why would it be wrong since that is what the inmate is agreeing to? I mean I could understand if just the state wanted to do this, but it's the inmate giving the ok to do it.

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    Re: Ohio delays inmate's execution over organ donation

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Why would it be wrong since that is what the inmate is agreeing to? I mean I could understand if just the state wanted to do this, but it's the inmate giving the ok to do it.
    Well first you have to find Doctors and surgeons that will perform these harvests on a live individual. Then, what happens to the execution. Are they going to give a lethal dose injection to a man that is already dead, or should they keep him alive on machines, wake him up and then give him the injection? Those victimized often want to see the condemned shake and strain against the restraints so that they can have closure.

    It's very disturbing at least with any scenario.

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    Re: Ohio delays inmate's execution over organ donation

    Quote Originally Posted by d0gbreath View Post
    Well first you have to find Doctors and surgeons that will perform these harvests on a live individual.
    The doctors can keep him alive and have someone else pull the plug.

    Quote Originally Posted by d0gbreath View Post
    Then, what happens to the execution. Are they going to give a lethal dose injection to a man that is already dead, or should they keep him alive on machines, wake him up and then give him the injection?
    Keep them alive on machines until all is harvested, than have the same person that would normally press the buttons to activiate the lethal injections pull the plug when its done.

    Those victimized often want to see the condemned shake and strain against the restraints so that they can have closure.
    The death penalty and execution is not about satisfying the revenge wishes of the victimized. Also, if lethal injection is given they don't strain against the restraints, they first are given a strong sedative that puts them to sleep, then the lethal doses are given.

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    Re: Ohio delays inmate's execution over organ donation

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    The doctors can keep him alive and have someone else pull the plug.



    Keep them alive on machines until all is harvested, than have the same person that would normally press the buttons to activiate the lethal injections pull the plug when its done.



    The death penalty and execution is not about satisfying the revenge wishes of the victimized. Also, if lethal injection is given they don't strain against the restraints, they first are given a strong sedative that puts them to sleep, then the lethal doses are given.
    It's very easy to miss, or go right through a vein when giving an intravenous shot. Angel Dias was executed in Florida. They had to give him the drugs twice. His face contorted, he mouthed words, and was noticeably in pain for the 34 minutes that it took to kill him. Remember, it's trained guards that don't get much practice, instead of medical professionals, giving the injections.

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    Re: Ohio delays inmate's execution over organ donation

    Quote Originally Posted by d0gbreath View Post
    It's very easy to miss, or go right through a vein when giving an intravenous shot. Angel Dias was executed in Florida. They had to give him the drugs twice. His face contorted, he mouthed words, and was noticeably in pain for the 34 minutes that it took to kill him. Remember, it's trained guards that don't get much practice, instead of medical professionals, giving the injections.
    Ok so then my idea is better. Have trained doctors harvest the organs and when finished, the only thing an executioner would have to do is pull the plug. See, no needle problem and no suffering.

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    Re: Ohio delays inmate's execution over organ donation

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    Train an abortion doctor to do it. They don't have anything against executions.
    Actually IMO they only have problems killing criminals....innocents is OK to kill.

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