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    US Navy Carrier brings much needed aid to the devastated coast of the Philippines!

    Typhoon Haiyan: Navy carrier reaches devastated Philippine coast - World News



    Carrier brings Aid to the Philippines where so far the response by the government has been ineffective and slow. This is another example of the amazing humanitarian effort performed by the US military, a thankless job for which they get little credit worldwide but in an age where every other US military news article is a negative it's nice to read this.
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    Re: US Navy Carrier brings much needed aid to the devastated coast of the Philippine

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    Typhoon Haiyan: Navy carrier reaches devastated Philippine coast - World News



    Carrier brings Aid to the Philippines where so far the response by the government has been ineffective and slow. This is another example of the amazing humanitarian effort performed by the US military, a thankless job for which they get little credit worldwide but in an age where every other US military news article is a negative it's nice to read this.
    We always done this for people in need yet, there are those who see downsizing our carrier groups as the answer.

    Wonder if other countries would come to our shores if the shoe was on the other foot?

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    Re: US Navy Carrier brings much needed aid to the devastated coast of the Philippine

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    We always done this for people in need yet, there are those who see downsizing our carrier groups as the answer.

    Wonder if other countries would come to our shores if the shoe was on the other foot?
    I think certain countries would, don't forget the global outpouring of grief and anger after 9/11 and the demand for justice.
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    Re: US Navy Carrier brings much needed aid to the devastated coast of the Philippine

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    I think certain countries would, don't forget the global outpouring of grief and anger after 9/11 and the demand for justice.
    I do remember that although the devastation was small in comparison.

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    Re: US Navy Carrier brings much needed aid to the devastated coast of the Philippine

    Well, I don't mind us sending the Washington SG for assistance......they estimate they will have to be there for 2 weeks. We will be using the Ospreys for assistance. Conducting Operations from the carrier which can help with the drinking water there. Plus flight operations.

    How much do you think this costs?

    Obama also sent 20 million dollars in aide for them.

    Do you think we should be throwing out 20 million dollars when we are in the Middle of a Stop Gap measure, have no agreements on any budget, and also that fact that we need the money ourselves and also are in a Sequester?

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    Re: US Navy Carrier brings much needed aid to the devastated coast of the Philippine

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well, I don't mind us sending the Washington SG for assistance......they estimate they will have to be there for 2 weeks. We will be using the Ospreys for assistance. Conducting Operations from the carrier which can help with the drinking water there. Plus flight operations.

    How much do you think this costs?

    Obama also sent 20 million dollars in aide for them.

    Do you think we should be throwing out 20 million dollars when we are in the Middle of a Stop Gap measure, have no agreements on any budget, and also that fact that we need the money ourselves and also are in a Sequester?
    That is a whole lot of dimes. Naturally we will never be told what this money was actually appropriated for - in other words, what other spending was cut to allow it to be used as foreign disaster aid instead. Budgeting is about making choices and typically includes savings yet we constantly hear that any tiny decrease (even in proposed increases) in federal spending will have "devastating" consequences.
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    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: US Navy Carrier brings much needed aid to the devastated coast of the Philippine

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well, I don't mind us sending the Washington SG for assistance......they estimate they will have to be there for 2 weeks. We will be using the Ospreys for assistance. Conducting Operations from the carrier which can help with the drinking water there. Plus flight operations.

    How much do you think this costs?

    Obama also sent 20 million dollars in aide for them.

    Do you think we should be throwing out 20 million dollars when we are in the Middle of a Stop Gap measure, have no agreements on any budget, and also that fact that we need the money ourselves and also are in a Sequester?
    I think that the Carrier would be doing operations anyway, so the cost is minimized as sop, just in a different neighborhood. I am anti military offense budget but I'm certainly not against this operation. I was in Sangley Point and Cavite City in the 60s and really enjoyed it. Pretty nice people over there, same as anywhere else. The water and food that the carrier can supply and hospital services are wonderful. It can practically replace a city administered infrastructure. It's nice to see a humanitarian use for our military instead of attacking alleged "terrorists."

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    Re: US Navy Carrier brings much needed aid to the devastated coast of the Philippine

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    That is a whole lot of dimes. Naturally we will never be told what this money was actually appropriated for - in other words, what other spending was cut to allow it to be used as foreign disaster aid instead. Budgeting is about making choices and typically includes savings yet we constantly hear that any tiny decrease (even in proposed increases) in federal spending will have "devastating" consequences.
    Mornin Ttwtt. As far as I know Congress hasn't appropriated anything. This was a straight call from Obama.

    Australia, New Zealand, Japan, and others in that region can send assistance too. Let them and others front up some of that money aid. If the Europeans think they can afford to throw away money then let them.

    We need to stop being the one to set any example other than we show up for assistance. Then we conduct rescue ops help out with what we can and head off back to our business.

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    Re: US Navy Carrier brings much needed aid to the devastated coast of the Philippine

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    I think that the Carrier would be doing operations anyway, so the cost is minimized as sop, just in a different neighborhood. I am anti military offense budget but I'm certainly not against this operation. I was in Sangley Point and Cavite City in the 60s and really enjoyed it. Pretty nice people over there, same as anywhere else. The water and food that the carrier can supply and hospital services are wonderful. It can practically replace a city administered infrastructure. It's nice to see a humanitarian use for our military instead of attacking alleged "terrorists."
    Well, it would but not in that region. Still Like I said I can for the Rescue and the cost of the Carrier group. But then we don't need to flop out 20 million when we need the money ourselves.

    That 20 million would be better spent here and on some sort of infrastructure.

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    Re: US Navy Carrier brings much needed aid to the devastated coast of the Philippine

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well, it would but not in that region. Still Like I said I can for the Rescue and the cost of the Carrier group. But then we don't need to flop out 20 million when we need the money ourselves.

    That 20 million would be better spent here and on some sort of infrastructure.
    would it though? Why not look at that 20 million dollars as a investment towards the US global brand which has been damaged recently with the drone stories, NSA spying, gov shutdowns etc.
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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