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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I used to find it absolutely amazing a few weeks ago how you could take something I said and distort it, twist it and pervert to come back and say something that had nothing to do with what I actually said.

    I no longer am amazed. Far from it.
    I said that America is governed by the federal government.

    You called this a false belief.

    Therefore it is reasonable for me to deduce that you don't think that the federal government is the government of America.

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Good thing the Feds were running the government during WW2..As for lazy-unfair during Kal Koolidge, some people like the KKK were ruining the Nation with Prohibition..How'd that work out..
    anyone else appreciate the DEEP irony of falsely ascribing Klan affiliation to a man who was part of the administration that replaced Wilson?

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by Green Man View Post
    I said that America is governed by the federal government.

    You called this a false belief.

    Therefore it is reasonable for me to deduce that you don't think that the federal government is the government of America.
    The nation of the United States of America is comprised of fifty states and those are in turn comprised by cities, town, villages and other smaller areas. Each can have their own government which has its own area of authority.
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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Good thing the Feds were running the government during WW2..As for lazy-unfair during Kal Koolidge, some people like the KKK were ruining the Nation with Prohibition..How'd that work out..
    According to the Constitution, perhaps the second most important document in the history of man, National Defense is the responsibility of the Federal Government. Health Care and food stamps were never mentioned..

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    After think this over and coming down on each side of this a few times, I tend to think you are right to a certain extent. America is indeed governed by the ever expanding and more powerful federal government. State power has become fairly non-existent to where a state is nothing more than lines drawn on a map. But the people could change this if they so choose to do so. They do not have to keep sending the same people and the same political parties back to Washington to rule over them if they really desired not to do so. So if the federal government rules over the people and in a lot of instances goes against the peoples wishes, who fault is it that we let them do it? People are satisfied with being told what to do by those who say they know what is best for them. This way they do not have to decide what is best for them themselves. They just follow the dictates of Washington.

    There was a reason the framers put into the Constitution what powers the government/congress had and what powers they did not. Then to make sure it was understood they added the bit that if the power is not listed, that power resides in the hands of the states or to the people.

    We were once a republic where the people were represented by the House of Representatives which the people voted directly for. The states were represented by the senate, which the senators were to be chosen by the state, its legislature or its governor to represent the states and the states interests, not the people of the states. The 17th amendment change this to where today senators are not representing their states, they are just another House of representatives with a set of different rules.

    The president was to be chosen by a set of electors where each state would decide how to elect them. But I guess the bottom line is that we have moved away from the Republic and more into a direct democracy which diluted the powers of the states and in that vacuum the federal gladly stepped in to where they are now omnipowerful and that power continues to grow unabated.
    You absolutely nailed it. Everything began to change with the 17th Amendment.

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    The nation of the United States of America is comprised of fifty states and those are in turn comprised by cities, town, villages and other smaller areas. Each can have their own government which has its own area of authority.
    There are many subdivisions, and the federal government grants a degree of autonomy to these subdivisions. But the federal government retains supremacy over every person, village, town, city, and state.

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by Green Man View Post
    There are many subdivisions, and the federal government grants a degree of autonomy to these subdivisions. But the federal government retains supremacy over every person, village, town, city, and state.
    And they are assuming every increasing power over these States and communities. The idea of local government responsible to the people most directly involved, is rapidly being eroded.

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    And they are assuming every increasing power over these States and communities.
    Yes they are.

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You absolutely nailed it. Everything began to change with the 17th Amendment.
    Without the 17th, politics as we know it today wouldn't exist. The government would be more mangable and the states more say in how they run their own state. It would be a curb on the central government which no longer exists. The best interests of the states would be at the forefront in the senate and not so much party agendas and politics.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Without the 17th, politics as we know it today wouldn't exist. The government would be more mangable and the states more say in how they run their own state. It would be a curb on the central government which no longer exists. The best interests of the states would be at the forefront in the senate and not so much party agendas and politics.
    : The 17th amendment was passed in 1913, when Democrats had the majority in the Senate, although both parties had spent years trying to get it passed. States lost a lost of their rights when this amendment was added, and critics have argued for its repeal ever since. Our Federal government has since grown by leaps and bounds, which was not what the Framers of our Constitution had in mind, IMO. In fact, the Federal government had very few duties listed in the Constitution...most power was given to the individual States prior to this, which makes sense.

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