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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Do you care more about the rates or the dollars paid? Would love to hear your definition of progressive if paying a higher percentage of the taxes isn't progressive?
    Paying a higher percentage of all the taxes doesn't mean they pay more taxes. Anytime the number of tax payers goes down everyone who pays taxes will see the higher rate not just the upper incomes.


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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Good answer. In a progressive tax system income brackets are created and marginal rates are assigned to each of those brackets. Those rates are only applied to the income for each bracket, the total tax paid is the sum of all the applicable brackets. So if the Bush tax cuts was progressive the individual would be paying more, but we know they paid less.
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    Paying a higher percentage of all the taxes doesn't mean they pay more taxes. Anytime the number of tax payers goes down everyone who pays taxes will see the higher rate not just the upper incomes.
    So . . . did they pay more? Or did they pay less?
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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Paying a higher percentage of all the taxes doesn't mean they pay more taxes. Anytime the number of tax payers goes down everyone who pays taxes will see the higher rate not just the upper incomes.
    That wasn't the question, do you care more about taxes collected or the rates? As we have seen less than 50% of income earners pay taxes, how many of them are the upper class?

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    So . . . did they pay more? Or did they pay less?
    They paid the same and you agreed.


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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

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    They paid the same and you agreed.
    I know what I think. I'm just trying to keep track of your claims.
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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Still don't get it, do you, probably never will as you have never had any leadership opportunities at all. Reagan created 17 million jobs, doubled GDP, had a 60% increase in FIT revenue, and created a peace dividend. Debt to GDP was less than 60% and it is well over 100% now. How many times do I have to post his information until you realize you are out of your league here and have no idea what you are talking about?

    Your support for Obama is misguided at best in that you support an incompetent whose resume showed no leadership skills or management experience. The results apparently are irrelevant to you. Are you a racist supporting Obama simply because he is black?
    I showed you how the Job creators themselves blame the GOP for stalling the recovery. Hell, here's an article about it that was cut today.
    Here's Evidence That The GOP Is Not 'Pro-Business' Anymore
    For decades, Republican opposition to taxes and government regulation has matched the financial interests of big businesses. As a result, corporate America has kept the campaign contributions flowing toward conservative think tanks and politicians.

    But the love affair between business owners and Republicans is clearly waning, particularly with the economy reeling from GOP-backed austerity measures and the disastrous government shutdown.
    It goes on to give examples of GOP policy all of which were job killers. Earlier, I showed you an article that stated the GOP austerity measures cost the economy between 2-3 million jobs.


    What part of that do you not get?

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    The fact - which has been explained to you over and over and over and over and over again is that we are talking about YOUR CHOICE OF THE NATION YOU LIVE IN. We are talking about YOUR CHOICE of what laws to live under. And location be damned, damned again and thrice damned.
    Yet, as in understand it, one of the key aspects of living in the US is that you can take steps to change a law you dislike. Granted doing so is a very long process and may fail.

    Still, it is not a given that someone accepts current law, despite voluntarily living in the US. That they should obey the law, yes. That they agree with it, no.
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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    I showed you how the Job creators themselves blame the GOP for stalling the recovery. Hell, here's an article about it that was cut today.
    Here's Evidence That The GOP Is Not 'Pro-Business' Anymore

    It goes on to give examples of GOP policy all of which were job killers. Earlier, I showed you an article that stated the GOP austerity measures cost the economy between 2-3 million jobs.


    What part of that do you not get?
    The Repubs are no longer pro-business because the Huffington Post says so?
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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    The Repubs are no longer pro-business because the Huffington Post says so?
    I think the truth is probably that each individual politician is pro-business to the highest bidder. Democrat or Republican, whatever.

    I don't trust any of em.
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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    I showed you how the Job creators themselves blame the GOP for stalling the recovery. Hell, here's an article about it that was cut today.
    Here's Evidence That The GOP Is Not 'Pro-Business' Anymore

    It goes on to give examples of GOP policy all of which were job killers. Earlier, I showed you an article that stated the GOP austerity measures cost the economy between 2-3 million jobs.


    What part of that do you not get?
    Tell me exactly what the GOP prevented from happening that caused what we had in 2009-2011? You buy what you are told and ignore actual reality. Your opinion is nothing more than an opinion based upon ignorance. I want to see what austerity programs prevented 2-3 million jobs from being created? Did those shovels ever arrive for those shovel ready jobs?

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