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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Of course you do. It was your own line.
    Okay, but you failed to tie in your non-sequitur. Why would an individual who chooses to leave a voluntary relationship have any necessity to move from his current location?

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    The money comes from taxation - as does all government revenues.
    Yes, there a variety of taxes but, as we know, 'government revenues' have included $17 trillion in borrowed money. As of now interest rates are historically low but if they increase then the problems begin. What happens to fixed income groups if inflation climbs to 20%, as in the days of Jimmy Carter.

    Perhaps you are right and the government can honor their commitments and we can hope that's the case but, as a prudent person, I would not bet my future on it.

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

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    No money. The cupboard is bare.
    Liberals don't get it and never will, they just go back to the money tree and get whatever they need. All those IOU's for SS have to be funded and to fund them there aren't enough workers paying into SS so the govt. will have to print or borrow the money, both of which have severe consequences to the American consumer and our national debt. The ignorance of the left is staggering.

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Progressives did leave it. I was born in 49 and lots of people in my age group did leave because they objected to participation in certain practices mandated by the US government. Leaving for something better is the reason this land was founded in the first place by people from Europe.
    Now there appears to be a US makeover into something resembling what the original settlers fled. Like it or leave it.

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

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    No money. The cupboard is bare.
    Really!?!?!?!? I never heard that. Please present the evidence for me to examine.
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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    It means its about much more than simply location. As I have said repeatedly its about you picking a nation to be a citizen of and enjoying all that comes with it both benefits and obligations and doing so of your own free will.
    That idea might work better with greater State rights. Moving to another state, as many are discovering, is far better than having to leave the country of their birth. With a powerful national government there are far fewer opportunities to exercise individual freedoms.

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    It always was. Its about being an adult and exercising your ability to make choices and standing by the consequences of your choices.
    I don't think he is saying that, nor is any person on this site arguing that they should pay no taxes....Why is it that you have to convolute the thread? Can't make a cogent argument otherwise maybe?
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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Liberals don't get it and never will, they just go back to the money tree and get whatever they need. All those IOU's for SS have to be funded and to fund them there aren't enough workers paying into SS so the govt. will have to print or borrow the money, both of which have severe consequences to the American consumer and our national debt. The ignorance of the left is staggering.
    Agreed. But at least Haymarket gives it his best shot without the severe wackiness and abuse of most leftists. He is just wrong.

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by Green Man View Post
    Okay, but you failed to tie in your non-sequitur. Why would an individual who chooses to leave a voluntary relationship have any necessity to move from his current location?
    See every post I made to you on the previous four pages.

    Many years ago ss a young father of two different four years olds I remember how they argued with me and questioned things. They kept asking WHY as the ever present question despite a perfectly wonderful explanation being given to them.

    You are doing the same thing.
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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    That idea might work better with greater State rights. Moving to another state, as many are discovering, is far better than having to leave the country of their birth. With a powerful national government there are far fewer opportunities to exercise individual freedoms.
    I would agree with you that moving from state to state is a choice that gives a person a certain degree of control over certain things like state taxes or local property taxes. I do think it does little regarding such objections as Social Security which are national programs.
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